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April 25, 2006

Indrek Wichman Speaks Out

Posted by Eric at 8:37 am. Filed under: War / Terrorism

Michelle reports on Professor Wichman’s controversial email.

Dear Moslem Association: As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU I intened to protest your protest.
I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests (the latest in Turkey!), burnings of Christian chirches, the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavain girls and women (called “whores” in your culture), the murder of film directors in Holland, and the rioting and looting in Paris France.

This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic, and many, many, many of my colleagues. I counsul you dissatisfied, agressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems to be very aware of this as you proceed with your infantile “protests.”

If you do not like the values of the West — see the 1st Ammendment — you are free to leave. I hope for God’s sake that most of you choose that option. Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.

Cordially, I. S. Wichman, Professor of Mechanical Engineering

Dawud Walid, executive director of CAIR is scared.

“It’s scary when you think about the power that this gentleman has” as a professor.

Farhan Abdul Azeez, a senior, thinks the real underlying problem here is a lack of sensitivity.

“There’s a bigger problem here of racism and discrimination at Michigan State University. Faculty training and sensitivity training are very important to help prevent future incidents like this from occurring,” he said.

In other news, the first amendment permits freedom of speech but makes no accomodation for the beheading of infidels, homicide bomings or church burnings.

MORE: Dr. Rusty has more on this story, including a link to Daniel Pipes’ article on Sharia Law at Belmont.

Who would have thought that Belmont University of Nashville, Tennessee, would apply the Islamic law to its staff? But just that happened earlier this month.

Bill Hobbs, a Republican political advisor, blogger, and news writer for Belmont, which bills itself as “the largest Christian university in Tennessee,” was upset in February 2006 about the cowardice of the American media in not publishing the Danish cartoons. So he drew a primitive cartoon of his own and posted it on his personal site. It sat in obscurity until April 5, when …

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Finally!! Someone who sticks up for Americans.

Comment by norma — April 28, 2006 @ 7:03 am
You think this person sticks up for Americans? As a Muslim AND an American (born and raised), I think we can all agree that his language and overall tone were totally uncalled for. Instead of just looking at what the media portrays about Muslims, Dr. Wichman ought to educate himself about what Islam really says.

Comment by Fareed — April 29, 2006 @ 9:44 am
Islam?? What is Islam? And who is your God? Look deeper and see the moon. It’s not the same.

Comment by Farwho — May 16, 2006 @ 9:36 pm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AboutSite.htm

Comment by robert — May 19, 2006 @ 9:58 am
like the professor said, this is america….first amendment rights….i say if you don’t like us….leave leave leave….we won’t miss you at all….we don’t want to bother you so don’t bother us….live your lives and let us live ours….don’t infringe on our rights and complain because we don’t care what you think…..the terrorists are murders and deserve to be sent to ala….if that is your wish, kill yourselves but leave the innocents alone…..if you want to die for what you believe….do it on your own….stay out of our country……live where you please, just don’t make it here….we don’t want you anymore than you like living here and that is why i would allow you to vacate our land and the sooner the better….we never invaded your beliefs….we just want to see you hit the road…..your society is sick and to revel in killing others who have nothing to do with your hatred makes the world hate you and that is exactly what i feel for all muslims who do not respect our way of life…..so get the heck out and don’t bother us anymore…..i wish everyone in this country would speak up and say exactly what the professor said….it is his right and that is why america is beautiful and a wonderous place to live….

Comment by ruth kling — May 23, 2006 @ 5:37 pm
Like the comment or not (I happen to agree w/many points-and disagree w/others)…that is his and everyone’s right!…that is one of the things that makes this country great!…the only time your opinion should be censored in any way is when it is expressed in a violent/physically harmful manner to others.

Comment by Kathy — May 23, 2006 @ 8:56 pm
I can’t believe how upset the Muslims get with this sort of thing! If all of us true Americans got pissed about all the crap that was dished out on us, this country would surely be in a civil war. Thank GOD for the rest of non-Americans and non-Christians that this isn’t happening.

Comment by Mark — May 24, 2006 @ 6:52 am
Why is their such a double standared for activist minority groups? Why does this so called peacful reigion not condemn the atrocious acts commited by its radical fringe?

The prophet Muhammed is quoted as saying, “The sword is the key of heaven and hell; a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting or prayer: whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim.”

The retort to this is look at the attrocities committed in the name of the Christian God in the past. The difference being that Christians when asked will speak out against it.

Comment by seahawk1a — May 24, 2006 @ 10:45 am
If you do not like the values of the West — see the 1st Ammendment — you are free to leave. I hope for God’s sake that most of you choose that option. Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.

Comment by Kent — May 25, 2006 @ 12:42 pm
Mr Wichman,

Way to go. I TOTALLY aggree with all you said. If only more had the courage to say it.
God bless you and your family. THANK YOU!!!

Gregory R Bothe Sr.

Comment by Gregory R Bothe Sr. — May 27, 2006 @ 1:22 pm
The professor’s words really ring true. I wish Muslims would take a more vocal stand against the wrongs the extremists commit. Of course, some won’t. Perhaps some for fear of what could happen to them or their families in some lands. In the U.S., it doesn’t make very sensational news even when they do… Still, they could do more…

But, I wish we, also, would apologize openly, more, for the wrong things Americans have done. Not that a political cartoon is a crime. Nor to say we are actively trying to commit wrongs against muslims, nor, in recent memory, have done anything as extensively blatant as what Al-Quaida and others like them are doing these days. Still, being “man enough” to admit our own wrong-doings, and say “we’re sorry,” is one example the world could certainly use right now. I know we do admit our mistakes often through the news media, but we could maybe do more. Not that I think we should back away from the good we have been trying to do in Iraq and Afghanistan, either. So far, I think much more good than harm has been done. Hope that will prove to be true in the long run, too.

But I also think we should go out of our way and befriend Muslims wherever possible. If we aren’t able to share some ordinary, heart-felt, feelings of friendship and neighborliness, it seems the chasm will continue to widen, with worsening results. It will no doubt take effort… And, we would have to be patient, and might have to turn the other cheek sometimes still… But I think it would be worth it. It is a “battle” we have to win… to increase mutual respect, understanding, and friendship. The alternatives could be a lot more costly and difficult… at least, that is what I am thinking. This whole situation seems designed to divide the world into emotional camps, that without Heaven’s help, will most certainly lead to even greater conflicts and wars.

When I was in Saudi Arabia and Iraq years ago, I was very impressed with how wonderful and good many of the people there are. I hope we can win out on all “fronts”. It would be tragic to let “a few bad apples” and a lot of emotional reactions “spoil the whole barrel” we are all in.

ML

Comment by Mike — May 28, 2006 @ 1:37 am
I just saw the exact comments as above on a site that i found using Indrek Wichman, the Michigan State engineering professor as a Google search. I think these comment were in resopnse to his letter to the Muslim Student organization at MSU and not the Belmont teacher

Comment by Charlie — May 31, 2006 @ 11:50 am
Hooray for Mr. Wichman! He says what the rest of us are afraid to. I wish I had the nerve to wear a *White is Beautiful Too* shirt in answer to another one popular some time ago. We need more men (and women) like Mr. Wichman!

Comment by Lee — June 3, 2006 @ 1:41 am
I applaud Professor Wichman! As the mother of a serviceman who has spent three years in the middle east - in Iraq and under fire…and very grateful to be back home in these United States of America; thank you Mr. Wichman. For your brilliant insight and understanding the problems at hand and exercising your counstitutional right to have an opinion and take a stand! Thank God! I stand with you and join you in extending the invitation to those who hate and despise my country - my beliefs - PLEASE GO BACK TO YOUR OWN HOMELANDS! Those who have abused the privilege of living in the most wonderful country in the entire world..either love and support it or leave it. RETURN to your own ‘wonderful country’ and ways of life and do as you wish - just do it there - not here.

America is indeed the “land of the free” but because of “the brave.”

Comment by LYNN A. BENNETT — June 4, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
It is refreshing, for a change, to hear from a a fully credentialed academic who is not blatantly anti-American!

Comment by Pete bruno — June 6, 2006 @ 10:13 am
Finally, someone who speaks the truth about islam. The evils of islam are rivaled only by the evils of the nazis. Those that join with islam should be treated as we treated the nazis. Eliminate them. I think the dear professor was too kind.

Comment by Ken — June 7, 2006 @ 6:58 pm
I believe that Professor Wichman has said what most of us also think. This is not anti-Muslim as many are good people and good citizens…But, I for one, would like to see more of them also speaking out against the terrorism, kidnappings, beheadings, car bombings etc, etc, etc, It is not a hate message against Muslims, but common sense. He also has freedom of speech in this country and it seems that is only allowed for anti-government and anti-Americans and ant-Christians. He said nothing that should be censured.

Comment by Fran — June 8, 2006 @ 6:21 pm
I agree with the professor, why should the Islam people have the right to say and do things against us, that’s ok, but let an American say something against the Islamic Terrorist, then the political correct dummies say it’s wrong, but yet Muslim folks living here can celebrate the outright murder of 3000+ people and nothing happens to them, they should have been deported.
The professor doesn’t need no “training” and his letter was not racist, he was exercising his God given and Constitutional right t express his view. You political correct dummies need to realize that when a group of people against this country does something against this country you don’t protect them. The ones who are honest and trying to make a honest living, then more power to them. I agree with the professor, if you don’t like America then Leave it. It seems that all the political correct dummies and left wing want to hear are praise for their view, not critisism when it’s right. AMERICA, LOVE HER OR LEAVE HER.

Comment by Big J — June 8, 2006 @ 8:59 pm
Why don’t people seee the truth behind all religions???
The truth is all wars are religion based, and always have been.
Religions prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all religions are intolerant of other religions.
I say do away with all religion, learn the truth of Darwin and Mother Nature/Gaya.
What is wrong with all religions the say one thing, “We love all, and tolerate all.”, and then their members can’t get that concept through their heads, and war over it.
To me it’s just human stupidity, and a greed and lust for evil!
Sincerely
Bert

Comment by Bert — June 9, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
We need more people like the prof.
I’m sick and tired of all the bleeding hearts crying that they are offended by what someone says.

Too Bad!
I call it like I see it.
You don’t like it?
Then leave. Get out of here so we can get back to worrying about our own instead of every other two bit country and their transplanted citizens.

I believe in free speech and what the Prof. said is totally legal and correct.

TaZ

Comment by TaZ — June 11, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
Hooray Professor Wichman for having the courage to speak out against the insanity in this country! Is it my imagination or is there a frightening trend in the United States that allows us to speak our mind - but only if we have a far left extremist opinion?! I agree whole-heartedly with Professor Wichman… This is America, where we do have First Amendment rights. If you don’t like it - leave! I wonder what would happen if these muslim extremists were to make the same comments about the government of their homeland - while in that country! 85% of the United States is Christian and it’s about time the extremist few with the loudest voices stopped having this country catered to them and their wishes! C’mon America… stand up and defend what so many of our sons and daughters have died to protect!!!

Comment by Patty — June 13, 2006 @ 8:43 am
Way to go professor! Islam is not a peaceful religion - read the 100 or so war verses in the Koran - start with “death to all infidels,” and read on from there. Since this religion is directly connected to the Islamic way of doing things (not our way) and controlling people (sic… it is the government also) - it must be engaged!! And engaged until they see the light of their maddening ways.

Comment by Harbo — June 13, 2006 @ 9:44 am
The students are exercising their rights to protest, they are being Americans and we should applaud them, not ask them to leave. Shame on you. Most of your comments are very un-American and unpatriotic. I bet you that 99% of the protesters would also condemn the beheadings. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I am Christian and if you look at history far more evil has been done in this world by us than Muslims.

Comment by Boo — June 16, 2006 @ 10:09 am
Anyone who condemns a single word the professor says is an anti-American imbecile. Free speech is a two way street. Your childish beliefs that only your opinions are worthy of being expressed attests to your naivete. Suddenly, anyone who disagrees with you is labeled a racist or their comments are labeled as hate-speech. Well, prepare for a few labels yourselves: I politely invite you American hating, insurgent loving, bleeding heart pansies to leave this country along with the muslims who don’t want to blend into our culture until ALL of you can respect the opinions of the rest of us.

God bless the professor!!!

Comment by Wheatok — June 19, 2006 @ 2:56 pm
Peace be onto you all

You guys arent americans….your racists.

Racists contradict americans, so please dont insult our names and reputations.

For the muslims out there, i apologize on the behalf of my people for insulting the rest of us americans by calling themselves american.

The real Americans are they who accept diversity and try to learn more about other cultures. Not those who close their minds to knowledge.

If you really want to learn about what America is all about, then read the declaration of independence along with the constitution.

You may keep your own views, but do not say it in a collective manner because the rest of us americans enjoy the company of the muslims who add on to the unity in diversity of this land.

Dont blindly follow what everyone is telling you guys, filter out the truth because it is bound to be confused with falsehood.

Peace

Comment by Faith — June 22, 2006 @ 9:29 am
Dr. Wichman is to be applauded, as should MSU for upholding the good doctor’s EQUAL right to express HIS opinions. The listeners have the right to agree or disagree, but NOT to deprive anyone of THEIR right to express an opinion. I happen to believe in “live and let live,” in any legal manner, whether it is a matter of religion or secularism. This is a philosophy Islam is sorely lacking, even to the point of slaughtering Muslims who don’t toe the “line” 100%. Ref. ON-GOING Murderous suicide attacks by Suuni’s against Shiites, the treatment of females like chattel, the hate-crimes against the ENTIRE Non-Muslim world-we “infidels” who choose, of our own volition, to excercise our religious freedoms in our OWN PERSONL MANNER!

Where are the voices of protest aginst THOSE ATROCITIES??? I have yet to hear even ONE PROTEST from “reasonaby minded” Muslims, or, for that matter, ANY of the religious leaders of this so-called “peaceful” religion, about those crimes against humanity! WHY IS THAT!?!?!? To paraphrase attorney Joseph Welch’s question put to Senator McCarthy back in the early ’50’s…”Have…THEY.. no sense of decency…?

As for those protesting students, I concur with the majority opinions voiced here. If you don’t like our American way of life, GET OUT…NOW. Go back to your own countries and spout your intolerances, discontents and hatred, for any disparate ideolgies there. This is for ANYONE who doesn’t like it here, regardless of race, color, creed or religion. And. as politically uncorrect as it may be, LEARN, as did all people immigrating to the Unites States, it is YOU who must adapt to OUR way of life, NOT VICE VERSA!

Comment by Dr. Roger Harris — June 22, 2006 @ 9:54 am
Good for Professor Wichman! It is about time someone spoke the truth! I am in 100% agreement with him. God bless you and your family! Thank you for standing up and telling it like it is!

Comment by Jean Ash — June 23, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
Professor Wichman has said it straight and true. I’ve read the other postings, and his comments reflect what many of us think and feel. “Political Correctness” weakens us all, and he has shown the fortitude to speak up. I’ve been to the Middle East and know many wonderful and good people there. But the Islamic terrorists have taken their religion as a hostage in their jihad against those who don’t believe as they do. The extremists bring much harm to their fellow Muslims. I wish the Muslim world would rise up against the extremists and not rile against satirists and truthsayers who are trying to show the fallacies of their terrorist ways.

Comment by Nancy in Michigan — June 23, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
Professor Wichman, I applaud your candor and integrity! Should those in countries under Islamic rule only be so insensed and empowered to act accordingly, we should all benefit. Likewise, to those in this country who support the anarchy and hatred the fundamentalist muslims portray, I too, hasten to forthwith exercise their right to a speedy unfettered exit.

Comment by Richard in Denver — June 24, 2006 @ 12:00 am
I have a question for professor Wichman,
You are a Jewish. Aren’t you? Why didn’t you ever mention it in your letter? How come you like to fight for Christians’ rights so much? Not for Jewish rights? Why didn’t you mention anything about the wars that US has been seeded, initiated, and supported in Middle-East? Why didn’t you mention anything about the suppressive governments that US has installed in those countries to be able steal their Oil/resources? Why didn’t you mention anything about Israelis (your beloved holly land rulers), who they are and what they have been doing to Moslems with the support of Americas for forty-eight years? Why didn’t you mention anything about the billions of dollars that US has been giving to Israeli ($7.5 billion per year) to create wars in Middle-East?
At last, I have a question for all of you who get so emotional and can’t see the logic- WHY THOESE PEOPLE HEATE US? WHY? WHY? What have we done to them??????

God bless,

Comment by Kirsty — June 25, 2006 @ 5:47 am
Thank you Dr Wichman. I applaud you.

Comment by Sheila — June 26, 2006 @ 7:48 am
While not all Muslims are terrorists, it seems all terrorists are Muslims.

Comment by Chris S — June 27, 2006 @ 6:14 pm
I congratulate Dr. Wichman for speaking his mind. It troubles me, however, that he wouldn’t have expressed himself so strongly if he had known the email would be made public. All Americans should be able to do this freely and without second thought to the safety of their reputations, jobs and personal safety. The American students who are expressing outrage at the professor’s words are enjoying this freedom and take it for granted having no firsthand experience in countries where government controlled by religion create an intolerant and intolerable climate. I don’t want these students leave. I want them to go back there and visit their relatives and see what those poor brave people are going through and when they get back here, they will have a broader perspective and hopefully a renewed appreciation for the great American experiment.

Comment by Lucien — June 27, 2006 @ 7:27 pm
Islamist terrorism coupled with Sharia intolerance must be seen by the body of Islam as the cancer that pervades it. Those true adherents of Islam who will not utter a word or lift a hand against their evil so-called ‘co-religionists’ are as guilty as the perpetrators of crimes that bring Islam into disrepute. I use the words ’so-called co-religionists’ advisably because I still want to believe that the majority of Muslims are good and privately ashamed of people who wear the mantle of Islam while acting against the Koran’s pacific and hospitable principles taking out of context and stressing its outmoded extremist admonitions.
As in the case of an individual who, knowing he has cancer, does nothing to cut it out or treat it, it will eventually consume the whole body.
If the sufferer does not take curative action himself it behooves those of his family members to take the drastic action required. The majority of good, kind Muslims who do nothing against the Nation of Islam’s cancer must not be surprised when non-muslims stand up in their stead and take the necessary surgical action to stop the spread of the Muslim cancer infecting it and the rest of the world’s population. Treatment will always be more effective and less painful with the patient’s co-operation.

Comment by GRAHAM — June 28, 2006 @ 5:57 am
My prayers are with you Professor Indrek Wichman. I hope all recognize more
than a modicum of truth in your remarks. I know that you did not want them
to be circulated but I look upon them as a breath of fresh air. Would that the Muslim people had the humility to see the truth in them as well. Sadly, from some of their remarks they don’t. I am also proud that the early immigrants of whom I am
a descendent built up America with their hard work and sacrifices. They were grateful to America and did not try to change or make her according to their desires. While keeping their cherished traditions, they became true Americans and for that
I am very proud.

Comment by Suzana Megles — June 28, 2006 @ 7:14 am
CONGRATULATIONS TO MSU, my Alma Mater. If Muslims, or any group, does not want reasonable people to disregard their opinion, they must be willing to criticize those who commit violent crimes, beheadings, etc. Defending Muslim murderers because you are Muslim leaves me doubtful about your beliefs.

Comment by Eugene Sauls — June 28, 2006 @ 7:19 pm
Dear Professor Wichman:

If it is, in fact, true that you expressed yourself regarding the swath of evil carried out around the globe by muslim terrorists, we salute you and support your absolute right to give voice to your outrage in a private email.
For the time being, this is still a free country. And it is past time that the Christians of America paid heed to the brutal truth that they are “infidel dogs” to be targeted for destruction by radical islam no less than the Israelis. Extremist Arabs are to this day obsessed with the Crusades, which they teach was the end of Arab dominance in the world. And they fully intend for today’s faithful to pay the ultimate price for Arab humiliation.
We hope the University continues to stand by you lest we arrive at a situation in which only the aggressors have the right to spew their views forth, while the honest and decent among us are pressured into silence.
It is a lesson which should be long remembered: there is no conciliation with evil and there is no compromise with fanatics.
Very truly yours,
Ron and Dorene Richman

Comment by Dorene and Ron Richman — June 29, 2006 @ 12:21 am
Professor Wichman in his email expresses thoughts which should be held by all Americans. We welcome all who will live in peace with us and work toward a better future. We reject all who wish to dominate us and have no second thoughts about killing us if we don’t submit. Islamo-Fascists are a cancer on the world and must be resisted unless we all want to be second class citizens living under sharia domination (law?).
For those who confuse religions, Christianity went through a reformation to rid itself of its excesses. Islam hasn’t. Ancient practices (such as stoning) are referred to in Christian, Jewish and Muslim holy books, but only Islam believes that these should be practiced TODAY. This seems to be a distinction lost on our leftist brothers.

Comment by Bill Brooks — June 29, 2006 @ 8:30 am
I Think the reasons more Muslims do not protest beheadings and targeting /wanton killing of civilians is that most Muslims are secretly rooting for the perpetrators (martyrs). Maybe it’s similar to the way many New Yorkers (tired of being mugged) rooted for the vigilante Bernard Goetz (he’s the guy that shot the kids trying to rob him on the subway). Over half of Muslims recently polled around the world believe sharia law should eventually be applied universally, not just in Muslim countries. #1 movie in Turkey (supposedly a strong American Ally)? Valley of the Wolves Iraq. In this movie the American villans among other things, massacre civilians at a wedding party and firebomb a mosque during evening prayer. There are multiple summary executions. Ask Salmone Rushdie, the Danish cartoonist, the Dutch movie maker, >5000 dead Americans about the religion of peace.

Comment by Scott Simpson — June 29, 2006 @ 9:04 pm
It is very suspicious that “American Muslems” are not speaking out and condemning the attrocities. Why the hell not?

Comment by The American — June 29, 2006 @ 9:13 pm
What a breath of fresh air!! The professor is right on the mark. The outrageous fact that muslims can slit peoples throats and basically cause havoc the world over, yet we must tiptoe around ignoring their savage behaviors lest we insult them is nothing short of lunacy! Prof. Wichman…I salute you!

Comment by Bebe — July 2, 2006 @ 2:18 am
What makes this country so great? People of all religions and races.

“The Opinions of Men are almost as various as their Faces; an Observation general enough to become a common Proverb, So many Men so many Minds”. This was written by, Benjamin Franklin back in 1731.

Since that time we passes laws protecting the indivual rights of American citizens. The first amendment in 1791 (Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.

I want even try to list the court cases over the years upholding the right of indivual in the United States.

I’m proud to say I’m American. I try to be tolerant of others and listen to there ideas and options. It does not mean I have to agree.

But we all should agree this is a wonderful country and it citizens are some of the best in the world. Reggie Mitchem

Comment by Reggie Mitchem — July 4, 2006 @ 10:14 am
For once i totally agree with a college professor. Dr. Wichman was direct and right on point.

However, there are a few out there that don’t get it. Bert, blind tolerance had a lot to do with allowing the terrorist attacks to happen in the first place. Being tolerant of people who want to hurt us and our way of life is unacceptable. And Bert, currently Darwinism is on the way out. Educated people realize the odds for creation through random events is too rediculous to consider.

Faith, you apologized to the Muslims on behalf of “your people.” Who are your people? It sure is not me and don’t you dare pretend to represent me. Who am I? I am born in America of immigrant parents. I was raised to believe in the Consitution and the fact that all men are CREATED equal under God. I abide by the law, which was adopted from Christian/Judao principals by the authors of the Constitution. I have also served in our Military to protect the rights established in the Constitution.

And speaking of protecting our rights, how about Bert and Faith getting together and going to any Islamic nation, that we are to be tolerant of, and start talking BAD about alla. Lets see how long you keep your head.

Comment by rick — July 4, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
While I find the professors “defense” weak in that the salutation is not to an “individual”….. I also find that his protest is not directed at ALL Muslims…….but only those radical Muslims that practice these immoral and illegal acts…..I have often wondered where is the outrage of the good Muslims. I refuse to believe that ALL Muslims condone and support these heinous acts. I will join my Muslim brothers in their fight against bigotry and discrimination …..If they will join me in protesting and stopping these immoral and illegal crimes committed by Muslims against others…… crimes and bigotry are WRONG no matter what religion you are

Comment by James "Kojak" Hughs — July 8, 2006 @ 12:27 am
I can only hope that more such individuals as Dr. Wichman will make their voices heard. The “peaceful” world of Islam has, for the last three decades, demonstrated its hatred and disdain for all things outside of its realm. It has also demonstrated its willingness to inflict suffering and death upon innocent and unarmed people with savegery and cruelty, all the while gloating and praising themselves. Where is the response of outrage from our “kind-hearted” Muslim community at the horrific acts commited by its henchmen? Frequently, these murderers refer to Jews and Christians as “Crusaders”, when it is THEY who the true progenitors of aggression. I don’t recall any actions by the west that ever targeted mosques, shopping malls, or other gathering places of unarmed civilians. I don’t recall videos made in the west of beheading an unarmed and innocent Muslim, and then shouting with joy thereafter. And I don’t recall any Muslim airliners full of Muslim passengers being ruthlessly murdered by western extremists. So what if Islam’s followers feel justified at being outraged by a stupid cartoon depiction of one of their deities? They should imagine what would (or could) happen if the west decided to take on an equal measure of outrage at THEIR list of atrocities. Let Islam take a stance, and a REAL stance, against the violence and mayhem commited in its name, before whining about cartoons and other trivial “offenses”. Until that time, as the good professor stated, if you don’t like it here, you’re free to leave.

Comment by Russ Thurlow — July 9, 2006 @ 9:08 am
I’m sure if it was a bunch of Norwegians were the ones that were hijacking planes, blowing up buildings and threatening all people non-Norwegian for the last three decades, the good Professor would be condemning them. The fact remains that the most intolerant group on the planet are the muslims. The world needs to have the courage to say “no more” to the intolerance of islam. It needs to be done in the same manner that we dealt with the last intolerant tyrant, Hitler, squash it.

Comment by Ken S — July 9, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
Ahhh, the truth will set us all free. It’s a rare occasion when a Professor speaks such words–a breath of fresh air. Dr. Whichman has spoken the truth…something that is not acceptable in the world of the politically correct. Radical Muslims are no different from Hitler. Hitler wanted to exterminate the Jews. A large percentage of Muslims want to exterminate the rest of us on this earth that are NOT Muslim. The Muslim population reamins silent to the radical Muslim atrocities–that says it all. It’s time we all face the truth and not bury our heads in the sand…this is not racist, it is the truth. Those that work hard to hide the truth will label these words as racism–it is anything but. Thank you Dr. Wichman for speaking the words that our country has afforded you the rights to. Freedom of speach is a two way street…and if our Muslim population does not like it…it is time to leave our country. This is our country, we will not change for you…it is you who must assimilate to OUR culture–just as you would expect us were we to move to a Muslim country.

Comment by Fred — July 10, 2006 @ 12:17 am
Right On Mr. Wichman

Comment by Brent — July 12, 2006 @ 8:30 am
When our new four-star general recently took over here at AF Space Command, one of the points he wanted us to understand is that we are in at least a 100 yr war against terrorism. Looks like the good professor already has that figured out. Right on professor!

Comment by Jerry — July 12, 2006 @ 3:04 pm
I choose the Prof. I like the way he thinks and the killers and wannabe killers who support them can stuff sand. If you condone the Wild Eyed Islamic Animals who cut off heads to make a point remember this, Violence is the last resort of an ignorant person -Mark Twain (close enough). If you follow Peaceful Islamic teachings then welcome to America, my foreign friends. There are some really cool places to get Chicken and I would love to show you. I like teaching about my and learning of your culture. No knives, or tongues please, just friends for now

Comment by Will — July 21, 2006 @ 6:56 pm
Yes, Mr Wichman should have sensitivity training. Right after the Islamists stop cutting off heads of christians and americans, when they stop blaming America and western society for the ills of their non democratic nations, and right after they begin practicing tolerance within their own culture towards non muslims. OH, let me add in that he should also get that training right after they start treating women as equals.
Until then, perhaps the muslim students should retake their 8th grade constitution tests and look real hard at that one about freedom of speech. If they aren’t fromt he USA then they should probably look those amendments up.
In regards to the earlier post, why is he being attacked for being jewish? What does that have to do with it? Who is the bigot, him, or the person who assumed he was jewish because of his name? Attacking him for that reason is stupid and shows who is truly prejudiced and racially intolerant.
As far as the USA giving money to foreign countries, The last time I checked Israel was the only democaracy in the middle east, and Israel wasn’t the one that was geting the most foreign aid.

Comment by Bryan Morgan — August 9, 2006 @ 10:48 pm
I find his remark on the mark. Only because i wonder why these same muslims are not sending out emails and protesting their own doint the type of things the professor stated in his e-mail. I can tell you for sure it’s not because they are scared that a Dane is going to make a cartoon about it. Their scared they might lose their head.

Comment by so what — August 11, 2006 @ 6:30 pm
Crud i cant spell replace doing, and the theirs to they’re

Comment by so what — August 11, 2006 @ 6:32 pm
My problem here is that the professor used his University-provided FACULTY e-mail to contact the assocation and identified himself by position and department at the university he works for.

If he wants to make sweeping stereotypical judgements against a global population on his own time, through his own email, that’s fine –let him make an ass of himself as many do. But he does NOT have the right to make himself an unofficial spokesperson for his department, his faculty, and his university.

You can, and should, be responsible for what you say and do as it applies to your job. Just as corporate companies monitor their workers e-mails and hold them accountable for what they say there, the same should apply to a university staff member.

Comment by Raquel Williams — August 13, 2006 @ 12:58 am
I congratulate the brave professor and the support of his University. This courage is rare today.

There has been so much deceit by the media, e.g., Reuters doctoring pictures from Lebanon, that the truth has been badly distorted. The radical Muslims have stolen center stage and their lies and distortions have been widely accepted. Where are the moderate Muslims? Why do they not take a public stand and speak out against their co-religionist who are planning and staging monstrous events such as 9-11 or the recent London attempt at mass aviation murder? Is it that they are afraid of reprisals, or, do they tacitly agree with the extremists and expect to be spared at the next Armageddon?

Comment by linda raz — August 13, 2006 @ 8:55 am
God it is amazing that there are so many sissy liberals out there. Hey you ignorant boneheads, wake up! More than 7,000 people died in the twin towers. Who did that you may ask while shaking your silly head? Why a buch of radical Muslims of course!
I compare you to many people out there who want something but do not want to pay for it in reality, you can make the cake but refuse the share; kinda like most of the kids joining the service and not want to be shipped off to the middle east, “gee-I didn’t think that I would actually have to play soldier”. So why did you all join the military huh? In Washingtos state there is a trial going on over a young LT who refused to go the the combat zone and play soldier; less than 20 years ago he would of been up for the firing squad and very few people would of stood in their way. I (and others) are assking what is happening to this country, and the people in it?
1) The comments were harsh, so were the Muslims and their statements.
2) And why is it that everyone is forgetting that the cartoons were made by some individuals outside of America, (Europe in this case).
3) And surely, Mr. Wichman did not post those cartoons, others did.
4) And what Mr. Wichman states is the ugly truth, only in the deep past of the dark Ages, and certain parts of the First Testament of the Bible are more horrific acts agains innocent people are portrayed. Not even the Spanish Inquisition came close to the acts that some of the radical Muslim groups have inflicted.
5) Why is it that these people seem to forget that they came over here-to America-not only for a better life, but to escape the ramifications of there homeland? Better yet, why is it that I know of Muslims that just as soon as forget their homeland, and are quite thankfull to “now” be an American and part of the American lifestyle?
5) By the way, did any of you liberal whiny babies know anyone who died in the war, or the twin towers? maybe you should go and talk to someone who really knows…….
Grow up please, and get with the program of life. the war is silly, and political, but it is still of a justifiable nature, considering what it has really done to humanity across the globe, I repeat, the globe, not just here in Anerica!

Comment by RSE — August 21, 2006 @ 5:22 pm
Totally amazing, I’m can’t believe I still get so suprised by the extents of stupid!!

If you speek the facts you must need to be converted to be a liberal or go to sensitivity training. Hasn’t any of the defenders of the Radical Muslims looked at the facts yet or what have they been smoking or what are they dreaming about.

The “founder of Islaam” established in Islaamic Law if someone disagrees with you it is
your DUTY to kill them.

And people wonder why there is trouble!!

Comment by fmb — August 22, 2006 @ 10:39 am
It is about time someone tells it like it is. Why do these foreign radicals think they can come to our country and demand we change to suit them? Where would we be if we went over there with such demands — you KNOW what would happen!

They want equality. Then I say let them have equality and they receive the same response we would get if we went to their country with an attitude problem.

If you don’t like what’s on TV, there is the OFF button. If you don’t like the movie, there is a handy exit. If you don’t like the country, then you are still equally free to leave that as well. Some people just need to be reminded of the freedoms they have here in this country — they are free to leave if they don’t like what they find.

Comment by Harriett Sharp — August 23, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
Indrek Wichman, I applaud you.

There are too many mamby pamby, un-patriotic citizens in these United States. It was our PATRIOTIC citizens that gave their bodies, families, and lives to bring this nation into being and to keep it free. But it seems that only a few (and very few it is comparatively) understand the price that was paid for our freedom. I feel that if anyone comes to our borders, willing to take up our credo and forsake whatever and wherever it is they came from, should be embraced and accepted fully. BUT, when they just want a handout (welfare, medicare, SSI…) or to cause trouble (riots, acts of violence, and other disturbances), they should be escorted back to wherever they came from and asked not to return.

Where is the backbone this country used to have? It has been turned to a yellow mustard like strip that says whatever you want to do is ok. Even SuperMan has forgotten what “Truth, Justice, and THE AMERICAN WAY’ is.

If you don’t like our freedoms, get yourself a ticket to one of the countries (one just like the former, Saddam dictated, Iraq would be a good one) that tell you exactly what you can or can not say or think and enforce strict penalties for speaking your ideals or thoughts. Many say ‘God Bless America’ but I say ‘God HELP America’.

Comment by Cliff Wilkinson — August 24, 2006 @ 8:11 am
The Muslin students response to Indrek Wichman’s letter is actually quite gratifying. It was non-violent. Everyday in Iraq Sunni’s and Shia kill each other for being Sunni or Shia. When was the last time a Catholic killed a Protestant for being non-Catholic? When was the last time an Orthodox Jew blew up a Reformed Synagoue?

We in the West now understand why Saddam was a brutal dictator. Lack of Authoritarian power in Iraq has unleashed the centuries old hatred between Sunni and Shia. So the US was the catalyst for the violence in Iraq since the US removed Saddam. But the US is not the root cause. The root cause is Islamic intolerance for both non-muslims and each other.

So in the end I praise the Muslim students. They didn’t murder or bomb. They used free speech.

THAT’S PROGRESS!

Comment by Marc Weiss — August 27, 2006 @ 9:13 am
Blaming the Muslim Student’s Association for extremist Muslim behavior worldwide is akin to blaming Christianity for David Koresh, the LDS for polygamy, or the Catholic Church for a handful of paedophilic priests. One would think a professor of engineering could be a little more analytical about matters.

The professor’s frustration with our nation’s foreign policy is understandable, but his target is undeserving. These students organized a peaceful protest of cartoons ridiculing their “Jesus”. Ondrek (a good-old American name?) should, for his own sake, practice a lot more tolerance and show a little more intelligence.

Thinking it through,
CWK

Comment by Chris K. — August 30, 2006 @ 10:30 am
Professor Wichman

Thank you for sticking up for your country. I must say you said it better than I could. I am 67 years old and quite frankly I’m rather tired of the rhetoric about how we should understand other cultures. It’s about time someone tries to understand our’s and if not at least be appreciative of all the aid we have given thier cultures. I still remember WWII and if we had this attitude then, we would all be speaking german or Japanese and hating Jews,Chinese, Vietnamese, Mongolians, ETC. I don’t think that our peoples that have this attitude understand that if we don’t stand up to these things now we will all be bowing to the east or be headless. Mark my words.

Comment by Noel Gary — September 1, 2006 @ 2:34 pm
I just watched a “beheading” video put out by one of those extremist groups the professor deplores. I think it ought to be made required viewing for every “sensitivity training” program offered by th university to students or faculty. Where or where does the Constitution of the US make it a crime to “offend” someone? May Allah, G-d, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed et. al. bless and help us in this time of world wide terror.

Comment by Fred C. — September 2, 2006 @ 7:21 am
Hooray for Professor Wichman for stating what most of us are thinking! How many of these students all over our country are getting a FREE RIDE? How many are going to take their free education back to their country to use against us? Shut up or go home! We don’t want your kind here. I say, “NO MORE FREE RIDES”!

Comment by Andrea Kollars — September 14, 2006 @ 2:39 pm
I totally agree with the professor and would venture to say that most Americans feel the same way. So if all you rag heads don’t like it, I would gladly help pay your airfare to leave this great country.

Comment by Timothy W Taylor — September 14, 2006 @ 3:49 pm
I agree with the professor, although I have Muslim friends too. I just think it’s a shame that the shrill PC left and the never wrong, but completely fanatical Student organization will probably force some kind of stupid settlement or mandatory “diversity” training that MSU will give in to so as to basically to shut them up.Will they ever listen and think it all through? I wish that I could think that will happen, but…

Comment by Ed M. — September 15, 2006 @ 10:31 am
I noticed that the email stated a desire for a response from the left, so I’ll take the bait.
OK, a professor points out the first ammendment rights available to Muslims in the US, and hey, if they don’t like it here, yes they can leave. But consider that those that live here, many of whom have American citizenship, also have the right to speak freely without being expected or invited to leave. I wonder how many people when they read Professor Wichman’s note recognized that not many Muslims in the US are engaged in slave trading, or even aggressive acts toward the West, yet many experience daily judgment in the US as if they are. Faced with increasing bias, is it suprising that a group of people would become upset and vocal when the entire Muslim world is portrayed in a single light? How would Jews feel if Moses was portayed that way in an Arab cartoon? To deny the inflammatory nature of the cartoon is to deny it’s power. So, inviting Muslims to leave the U.S. because they were offended at having their honored figure portrayed in this way continues the offense. Do we really think that those offended are terrorists? Do we think that because they were offended they all side with terrorists?

The voices of the left, those that are annoyingly “politically correct”, that are critical of the… remove our enemies at all costs mentality that represents a significant proportion of the philosophical mindset of Americans at this time, are a necessary element of a balanced democracy. To be annoyed with it, of course, is also a democratic right. But wiithout dissenting voices, without people lobbying for the protection of civil liberties in a fear based climate, there are many dangers that I believe are equal to, and possibly greater than the threat to the west from the Muslim world. Most obviously, the tide of political leaders moving toward absolute powers (I don’t think they have absolute power at this time, but I often wonder if they realize that). Absolute power can only be acheived when dissenting voices are squashed, when those who disagree with the dominant paradigm are afraid to speak. “You’re either with us or against us” is not a democratic value. I find it really disturbing that we fight to preserve democratic values by simultaneously weakening them. For my money, I want opposing voices. I want politcal dissent. I want diversity. In societies where these values are removed, human rights dissipate. There are many examples in history of the dangers of ending the political correctness crap.

Mitch Block
Jew

Comment by Mitch Block — September 19, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
Kudos to Professor Wichman!!

Comment by beccapie — September 20, 2006 @ 8:24 am
way to go professor….i love a guy who tells it like it is!!!

BTW……WHY I DO NOT LIKE THE MUSLIM RELIGION

in the human race there is a balance between a man and a women….the man is the hunter and defender of the home….the women is the love and nuturer…and both have a equal place

in the muslim religion the women is a second class citizen and unrecognized in the balance

therefore you have a disfunctional religion which defies and sets aside women`s input which upsets the balance…in muslim countries women cant drive….vote…go to school and have to be covered up in a birka

shame on you muslims for doing that to your women…..your twisted

greg b

Comment by greg b — September 22, 2006 @ 11:55 pm
way to go professor….i love a guy who tells it like it is!!!

BTW……WHY I DO NOT LIKE THE MUSLIM RELIGION

in the human race there is a balance between a man and a women….the man is the hunter and defender of the home….the women is the love and nuturer…and both have a equal place

in the muslim religion the women is a second class citizen and unrecognized in the balance

therefore you have a disfunctional religion which defies and sets aside women`s input which upsets the balance…in muslim countries women cant drive….vote…go to school and have to be covered up in a birka

shame on you muslims for doing that to your women…..your twisted

greg b

Comment by greg b — September 22, 2006 @ 11:58 pm
Folks, while detest the absurdity of Muslim Radicals, leaving is not a solution, it is only a regrouping. Nevertheless, all the inferences to the 1st Amendment is appropriate. It has nothing to do with le3aving or staying. It’s about …. Well read it yourselves.
Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Redress
redress v. 1. To set right, remedy or rectify. 2. To make amends for. n. 1. Satisfaction for wrong done; reparation. 2. Correction. [

Comment by Bob — September 25, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
I do realize that the 1st Amendment says nothing of leaving, however, if the best someone can do by coming to a country is to fly in the face of what it stands for and generate constant disention. Anyone that doesn’t want to work within the systems in place in America should leave. I would challenge them to find a better place that would suck up to their every whim - with “they” being any of the numerous special interest groups that want the world to revolve around them even when they are grossly wrong.

Comment by Raven Michaels — September 28, 2006 @ 10:46 am
I do find it interesting that many who blast Dr. Wichman keep saying that the “majority” of Muslims are not evil. So, where is their voice? Where is there power over the “tiny number” that are causing the evil? Where is their activism AGAINST those that are bad? Where is their actions to put good back to the name of Muslims? And, this final question, why is it that outrage, anger and retaliation over something they deem is “insulting” is all that is shown of the religion? Persecutions of some religions are truly unfair - like Wicca - people react negatively without having any information on the religion. However, with the Muslim religion, there is much negative out there on the religion by MUSLIMS - not ancient history like with the Christian relgion - but current day to day history of evil actions in the name of the Muslim religion. If the majority of the Muslims continue to let the minority speak for them and do nothing to thwart them, then they will continue to take the heat their actions generate.

Comment by Raven Michaels — September 28, 2006 @ 10:56 am
The first ammendment is under fire here. I believe that this country is in a constant state of evolution. That may cause some conflicts. Viewpionts will differ, people will disagree, and, sometimes, someone will get a mudhole stomped through their ass. I don’t believe that this is a bad thing, and believe discussion is vital to our growth in diversity. It’s about frickin’ time somebody spoke up….us Christians are just too shy and retiring. Personally, I think muslims are idiots to live the way they do…but they have a right to be idiots….long as they bother nobody else…..

Comment by TnTonto@charter.net — September 29, 2006 @ 10:13 am
You keep on speaking out like that. It was great what you said. The majority of the American People AGREE WITH YOU on this issue. There needs to be more of it said. Jt was great.

Comment by Ann Wooldridge — September 30, 2006 @ 2:00 pm
Way to go sir. We need more people speaking out in this way. There are alot of americans that feel like you do and are behind you 100% Again great job

Comment by Ann Wooldridge — September 30, 2006 @ 2:05 pm
Professor Wichman does, of course, have every right to speak his mind about the issue at hand. It is true that if anyone disagrees with his opions, or any cartoons against Musilims, can leave the country at any time and reutrn to the Middle east. I certainly do disagree that he mentioned he personally thinks they should leave the country. That statement was a little unprofessional, and crossed the line of racism and discrimiation. That being said, professor Wichman has good intentions overall; If any muslim has an issue with what he (Wichman) has to say or the cartoons, they should, indeed, return to their home country in the Middle East. I say that not as a personal wish of my own, but on their behalf so that they themselves can experience the trecherous events, as Wichman states in his letter, that occur. Do not try to belittle or re-educate a man for his beliefs when they aren’t discriminating against you personally. Look at the facts and realize that what this country has done against muslims is in no comparison to what yours (mislims’) has done to Americans…

Comment by Amanda Kratzer — October 2, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
There are none more guilty than good people who do nothing in the presence of evil. Where is the moderate Muslim majority outrage at the atrocities done in the name of Islam? Even those few Muslim voices that have spoken up do so in a non-commital fashion. They talk about Islam being about love and peace but don’t condem the actions of the so-called minority terrorists. I think the answer to the question is self-evident. Of all the posts to this site, none dispute the facts of the brutality, in the name of Islam, that Professor Wichman states is taking place in the World today. Instead he is attacked as a racist, bigot, insensitive, and his “power” is considered fearful. I find it interesting how often, when one side of an argument is losing, they resort to personal attacks and move away from the facts of the argument. I also find it interesting that college professors can spew out any anti-american leftist opinion they so desire, and are thought champions of goodness and free speech. Let a professor speak out in defense of our country or intimate a conservative thought, and they are racist and dangerous. Professor Wichman, I applaud your courage to speak up and be heard. I wish, no I pray, that more moderate peaceful Muslims would follow your example and speak up concerning what is taking place in the name of Islam. The real true question to all Muslims is this: is the term “moderate peacful Muslim” an oxymoron?

Comment by Raymond Petersen — October 3, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
My initial reactions to this situation were anger and outrage. I was angry and outraged that this educated American was being chastised for expressing his opinion. I was appreciative of a trusted community member that was charged with the education of our country’s young people and the fact that he was setting an example for our youth of what it means to have “American Pride.” Through reading the other posts on this issue I was able to focus more on the different points involved.

Yes - I was and AM proud to have a fellow American stand up for his beliefs, to stand up for our culture, and to stand up for the consistent suppression of first amendment rights for the sole benefit of the backwards notion of “Political Correctness.”

Yes – I believe that he had every right, as both an American and as a human being, to announce those beliefs.

No – I do not think that the professor should have felt it necessary to give a more subdued version of his beliefs had he known that his message was going to be made public. One of the principles that our country was founded on is the right to FREEDOM of SPEECH, not the freedom of speech – only at the right time or for the proper audience.

Yes – As a man living, by choice, in the United States of America, I am proud that the professor is outraged at the inhumane treatment of women in other cultures. Over the centuries, women have worked incredibly hard in this country to establish themselves as a powerful force in the home, in the workplace, in society in general. I believe that to stand by and say nothing to the people in OUR country that chose to continue those barbaric traditions in the “land of the free” is the same as announcing a decline in our own nation’s morals and standards. We should be able to let people know that we don’t agree with their views and that we don’t agree the way they chose to treat others.

No – I do not feel that it was proper, or in good taste to announce his personal views via his professional Email account. That makes it seem that his personal views are supported/sponsored by his professional organization(s).

Tolerance. That is the key. If everyone were able to practice more tolerance than hate, the world would be a much better place. We don’t have to agree with each other. Different cultures/religions have different views of right/wrong and sinner/saint. I know that it’s far fetched, but if all of those different cultures/religions could just agree to disagree, we’d all be better off.

Comment by Katrina S. — October 14, 2006 @ 2:14 pm
Congratulations and more power to the Profesor.
To the “sensitive” ones that come up with the old cliche of
“look at what Islam really says” it should be said:
” look at what Islam really does”.

Comment by Allan Erlbaum — October 18, 2006 @ 10:14 am
Thank you Professor Wichman. You speak the words that EVERY red whit and blue blooded American has in their heart.
Dear Muslims, your society as a whole, is a mindless, murdering, group of jackals without souls or conscience. There are exceptions I am sure, and this comment is not directed toward them. They are however, the small minority, and do nothing to stop the majority who are butchers, so are just as guilty as the suicide bombers and knife-wielding butchers.
Prove me wrong… DO SOMETHING about the extremeists of your religion!

Comment by Jim Yanacek — October 18, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
I can understand Professor Wichman and his anger. I myself was frustrated that, that, after the Pope delivered his lecture to the students at the University of Regensburg in Germany the Muslims were outraged again. It seems that there is a lot of hatred and anger on both sides. Unfortunately, the means the outraged Muslims choose end in killings and destruction. I don’t talk about all Muslims. I talk about FANATICS. And one can find fanatics in each and every religion and culture. I can understand that people here in the West get frustrated that they seem to have to apologize for cartoons, speeches and lectures meanwhile on the other side brutal killlings and destruction happen. And it is kind of refreshing that finally someone dares to speak up. But is always good to say: just leave the country if you don’t like it here. Does that mean that nobody is allowed to critizise the United States ? I grew up in Germany and by that time the wall was still there. When we complained about about politics or whatever and tried to improve things we were told to go to East Germany if we don’t like it. Is that right ? Shouldn’t we all try to live together and solve our problems? I think that Muslims who are peaceful and reasonable people should speak up against fanatics as well as christians should speak up against their own fanatics as well. The extremists are the culprits and nobody else. Nobody who is an extremist no matter what side should be allowed to mess with people’s brains in order to get them to hurt others. We are sons and daughters of mothers and fathers. We love our kids unconditionally (hopefully at least). Why can’t we try to extend this? And it does not help when people get angry and on the other hand write furious e-mails back. Although I really understand the Professors feelings (I felt them myself often enough) life taught me that anger never gets you anywhere. And this applies to both sides.

Comment by Andrea Kleinschmidt — October 18, 2006 @ 5:08 pm
I agree that he has freedom of speech, just like everyone else in this country. Isn’t that why people come here from all other countries because of our freedoms? I don’t think all Muslims are terrorist, and there are great people in every religion, race, sex, and culture, but why in America are we supposed to comform to everyone else. America is mostly a christian country, but these days we are not supposed to say Merry Christmas, have nativity sets out, say the pledge in our class rooms, and people want to take off in God we Trust from our money. Why? I don’t go to other countries and tell you who to believe in or worship, I don’t tell you not to pray in your schools, or that you can’t talk about your higher power, but we as Americans are supposed to do that for everyone else who does not believe in God. We opened our country for everyone to live the american dream, and please come and do that, but don’t try to change our beliefs, our religons, or our admendments. We are free to express our feelings, as Prof. Whichman did, if you don’t like so what! Get over it, move on and realize that not everyone is going to agree with your beliefs and feelings are going to be expressed about it. Stop being a pansie and if you don’t like what someone said, don’t associate with them. Wow! that sounds simple to me.

Comment by K. — December 29, 2006 @ 2:58 pm
I congratulate the Professor for speaking the truth that most Americans are feelng today. I am sick and tired of people who are not citizenss having more rights than those who are citizens. We were founded by Christians, all but two of the founding fathers were Christians. We have allowed people from other countries to come in and decide their culture and religion is better suited for Americans than what was originally here. The Judeo-Christian culture has a long, long history in the United States. And it is not the government’s practice to destroy religions or cultures who do not believe as do the majority. However, in many countries in the world if you are a Christian or Jew you cannot worship as such freely nor are who considered a first rate person. You are second class. So folks-when you criticize the Professor for not understanding or being tolerant of another culture–take a long hard long at that culture and see how it treats non-believers and how it treats on the average the wome in the country. Let’s get a life folks-the Professor speaks the truth and I personally am sorry that people don’t want to hear it. By the way-it amazes me that atheists, professors who are so liberal they believe everything is relative and illegal immigrants can say anything they want against Americans and now illegal immigrants can get credit cards without a credit score or social security card-but someone life the Professor in the Midwest is called intolerant –by a group that is known to be intolerant especially with the way women are treated. Go figue!!!

Comment by Sylvia Scott — February 14, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Fuckin Muslim barbarians! Go the fuck back to your fucking mother land and leave us the FUCK alone! Bastards!

Comment by Donald Duck — March 22, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
ruth kling said “…..if you want to die for what you believe….do it on your own….stay out of our country…”

… so that’s why we send our soldiers overseas to die… now I get it. Thanks for such an enlightening post ruthie.

Comment by joe schmoe — April 4, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
I HATE LIFE

Comment by haji booktapoon — May 16, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
… so that’s why we send our soldiers overseas to die… now I get it. Thanks for such an enlightening post ruthie.

Comment by haji booktapoon — May 16, 2007 @ 10:11 pm
fucking asshole shit fuicking piss cock shit cunt prick asshole

Comment by haji booktapoon — May 20, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Americans, Never forget what our forefathers fought for, We have rights! One of which is the freedom of speech ! As much as some would like to shut us “lower peoples” up, it is our right! And it is this mans right as an ” American ” to say what he feels ! And I agree with him 100 % ! God bless him ! YES , I SAID G O D !

Comment by An American — June 5, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
The Prof got it right, MSU got it right, and this male WASP is glad to see it.

Comment by Red White and Blue — June 19, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
What Muslims do and what they say are two entirely different things. On one hand they want sensitivity and equality, but on the other hand when someone questions the violent acts that they do on a daily basis they are infuriated and spew a hateful and violent diatribe against peaceful people. When will the Muslim actions begin to speak peace with the Western world? Why is it that in Palestine and Iraq they think nothing of blowing and killing other Moslim people. Everyday we see the carnage in the market places of civilians being killed by suicide bombers. We have a saying in America, “Love it, or leave it!” If you don’t like America, then you can leave just a easy as you got here. And I bet the reason you won’t leave is because you could be just another suicide bomb victim.

Comment by Proud American — June 20, 2007 @ 9:24 am
You go Professor! The consequence of any American going to another land and speaking out like the Muslims here in America, well we know what would happen! I echo this great man’s thinking. This is AMERICA, acclimate or get out! Why do you think you can bring your own politics to an already established American with a culture all its own. And by the way, this American is not changing that for any fanatic!!!!

Comment by Frank Schoenig — July 2, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
Hurray for Prof. Wichman for speaking the truth! As I look at the comments, all the people who don’t like his words seem to be the racists and bigots and have no understanding of what goes on in the world, let alone America. Go to your history books people and by the way, learn how to spell!

Comment by Speak up — July 4, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
If any Non-Citizen Muslims have read any or all of the comments posted here have witnessed one of the greatest things about this country “Free Speech”.

They have also witnessed one of the least great things about this country “Unreasoned lumping, grouping and labeling of a group of people for the purpose of voicing emotional outrage.”

I consider myself not so much a Christian as a sinner who is attempting to follow the narrow path of righteousness but knowing that I will ultimately fail because I am flesh and blood so I must in the end rely upon the grace of God to save me.

That said I must ask if 85% of American Citizens are Christians, why are we letting God be removed from our government? Why has prayer been outlawed in our schools? Why can’t Christian students utilize school facilities that would otherwise be unused?

To CAIR and the Muslim Student Group. If you are American Citizens you have ever right to protest. What you had no right to do was make public a private letter to you. What you have no right expect is censorship of the press or the punishment of another citizen telling what he felt. If the members of the Muslim Student Group are not citizens of this country, you have no right to expect the citizens of this country to tolerate you trying to force them to conform to your expectations. This is our country not yours. What you can expect that if you try to foment civil unrest and then cry foul when a citizen expresses his or her opinion we have the right to petition our government to have you deported and barred from re-entry to OUR country.

I do agree that cartoons that portray your prophet in any bad light is not only in bad taste but insulting to your faith. I would not want you to draw cartoons of Jesus making him appear as anything other than what I believe him to have been.

As far as who has warred upon who or who has exploited who or who has put their religion before above the others is just a lot of you said we said. Muslims and Christians both have fought over who had divine right to anything on this earth since Islam divided the tribes of Israel. Yes you heard me your ancestors were Jews and now you hate them as well as Christians who are another branch off the Jewish tree.

As far as I’m concerned none of us has the right to KILL someone of any faith not of your own, that is for GOD or ALLAH or YAHWEH to decide and in his own time not ours.

Any killing that is done in the name of a religion is a killing done to gain power here on earth - The power you have on earth is just as meaningless as having billions of dollars it will do nothing for you after you are dead.

So every citizen of the United States whether you are Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Baptist Agnostic or Atheist should all stand up and with a united voice denounce the atrocities that are being perpetrated in the middle east. I also call upon all you to respect not disrespect the Icons of any religion not just your own - well other than the Atheists they don’t respect anything that has to do with a belief in a power above their own minds and I occasionally say a prayer for them as well.

I do applaud you professor to have the courage of your convictions and CAIR as well as the Muslim Student Group should also respect that but instead they took offense and have done nothing but whine about it publicly. I have a friend who converted to Islam and from what he has taught me is that Muslims are supposed to be educated and encourage lifelong learning, what they should have done is engage you in a give and take dialog and attempted to learn from you and pass knowledge and understanding to you. So even if you came at them from a biased position and from what I have read of your e-mail assuming I have read the whole thing I think you could have done better by explaining free speech just a little better and how it applied to them and what they were asking for.

I just wish that the population of this planet were just a little less stupid and selfish.

Its no wonder Muslims don’t come out against the atrocities that are being committed in the name of Islam. All it would do is make Non-Muslims feel better and it would make the Muslims who did be villified as being corrupted by The Americans or maybe they were forced - either way the Muslims who live in the middle east would just tune them out. Either way they just aren’t geared to speak up like those of us whose family’s have been here for so many generations and take our freedom’s for granted.

I am neither liberal or conservative and feel that everyone needs to pray and then shutup and be quiet so maybe a few of us can hear the response from the one being that is older and wiser than all of us. Oh yes, and don’t mistake your will for that of His.

Comment by ChrisW — July 9, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
Don’t you know the squeaky wheel gets the grease in this country. Instead of defending ourselves we are so worried about what others may think of us and hold our tongues and allow the vocal minority to have it’s say, afraid to be politically incorrect. The First Amendment guarantees the right to freedom of speech for EVERYONE, not just easily offended groups that demand sensitivity training for everyone that disagrees with them. You say you don’t like what the professor said - tough. American soldiers have been fighting for over 200 years protecting EVERYONE’S freedom of speech, maybe some of these groups should consider that some of us may not like what they are saying and and maybe they should get sensitivity training so as not to offend the rest of us.

Comment by Allen — July 16, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
I might be willing to believe that the atrocites mentioned by Professor Wichman were NOT committed in the name of Muslim…if some Muslims (esp non-American Muslims) would actually speak out against it. I was listening very closely for a worldwide condemnation of the 9/11 murders by Muslim “leaders” and what I heard instead was a deafening silence.

Christians laughed at cartoons and went to war over 9/11.
Muslims laughed at 9/11 and went to war over cartoons.

Comment by EstebanDallas — July 17, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
Islam is as Islam does. And lately all we hear is the hate for the western world expressed by Muslims. If the Muslims don’t like the coverage of terrorist acts committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, then it’s high time they themselves do something about their terrorist fringe…a fringe that seems increasingly to be coming mainstream.

Comment by Gary — July 23, 2007 @ 9:55 am
“Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” How often Muslems protest what words are said about what they do in the name of religion. How seldom they protest the actions they take in the name of religion. Prof. Wichman was indeed right in his obsevations. Our country has welcomed everyone from the very beginning … even though it was rough going for many when they first started coming here. However they assimilated and became Americans who quickly learned to love the freedoms we are accorded and were willing to fight for them and to protect their new land. If we do not similarly take a stand and fight this battle now …. our land will not be free … or ours! It is impossible to negotiate with people whose only aim is to see you dead. Read your history folks .. if we had not interveened during WW2 where would our country (and indeed all of the rest of the world) be now.???

Comment by Sire — July 26, 2007 @ 6:20 am
I disagree with Entries 23, 25, & 30 to list a few. I agree with most all of the content of the rest of the posts.

I strongly urge the MSU Administration to treat Mr Wichman with great respect. He has spoken words most of us are in agreement.
Australia spoke almost the same words to their contingent of Muslims.

“Live by our laws or leave”. Only one governmwnt in Austrailia and it Isn’t Muslim.

MSU Administrators, Please act prudently and provide Professor Wichman a grand place to be employed without fear of reprisal.

Comment by Noel Keefer — July 26, 2007 @ 10:09 am
The First Amendment reigns supreme in this country. This professor has the right to say what he feels, especially on his own time! Additionally, the facts he brings up have the added benefit of being true. I, too, am offended by the way Muslims get a away with murder and we can’t even print cartoons or voice objections. Speech, especially protesting a protest (what is more American than that?) is not a crime.

Comment by TC — August 7, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
Yes, Finally someone speak out against this politcal bull.

Comment by Virginia — August 11, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
Bravo Professor Wichman, bravo! Why can’t everyone speak up the way you do?

Comment by Cliff of Palm Springs — August 13, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
THREE QUARKS FOR MR. WICHMAN !!!!!!!!!!
A RATIONAL RESPONSE to islamic insanity and “izlami-na-phenobia” !!!!!!

Comment by JoE kaffir — August 17, 2007 @ 12:28 am
THREE QUARKS FOR MR. WICHMAN !!!!!!!!!!
A RATIONAL RESPONSE to islamic insanity and “izlami-na-phenobia” !!!!!!

Comment by JoE kaffir — August 17, 2007 @ 12:30 am
What’s amazing is that the good old American common sense as expressed by the prof. has become so uncommon these days that it warrants such a blizzard of praise from so many people!

Comment by Geo — August 29, 2007 @ 4:26 am
We should not blame Islam for the acts of Its beleivers who are without conscience. Christians have murdered in the name of Christianity too, but not since the Dark Ages. The Islamic spinoff groups are in their Dark Ages. We must hope that they can become civilized soon or else that they will blow themselves up for the sake of 70+ virgins (but all alone without harming anyone else) By the way, what is promised for the female Islamic population who sacrifice themselves? What do they hope to receive in compensation?

Comment by Ray — September 7, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
I sure wish Civic 101 was still taught. It is? You would never know it with the endless reference to “freedom of speech”, 1st amendment rights etc. You have the right to free speech when it comes to the government. That doesn’t mean you can say anything you want with absolutely no consequences, quite the contrary; you say something that violates your employer’s stated policy or procedures you can be canned PERIOD. You have the right to say what ever you want ’tis true, you also have the right to the consequences of that speech. So let’s all take another look at the Constitution and what it really means for citizens…rights as well as RESPONSIBILITIES!!!

Comment by Ken Mills — September 8, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
I agree with the professor 100%. I was in college when Iran took our hostages and held them captive. Sadat was assassinated during that period also. Middle East so called “students” took over our campus, including the student union until the INS started checking visas. Most were not legitimate students and either left or were deported.

Having said that, it’s too bad we have an IDIOT in the White House who invaded a Muslim country under false pretenses and created more violence and havoc. Exactly how does this help matters?

Comment by Stasheroo — September 15, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
In Minnesotta the raghead cabbies won’t pick someone up at the airport who is returning from France or California carrying a bottle of wine… In also-free-speech London they demonstrate carrying signs including “Islam will dominate the world”, “Freedom go to hell!”, “Behead those who insult Islam!”, “Europe you will pay, your 9/11 is on its way!”, “Slay those who insult Islam!”. Countries like Chile have it together. Simply, if they don’t like you or what you stand for, you can’t get into the country. What is wrong with that? Yes, I am a racist. And yes I am a “culturist”. And you, dear reader, are equally racist and culturist or you are self-hypocritical. To hell with diversity that is bent on destruction or even dillution of our culture. I say, ship’em all back where they came from, set a perimeter so they can’t get out and let them seek comfort in their goats, camels and endless tribal barbarism. In the end. every culture is like some food chain species. The fundamental law of the jungle is simple survival of the fittest. You either eat or get eaten. We should banish this so-called “religion of peace” while we still have a chance.

Comment by Paul — October 1, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Mohammad is a Dog.

Comment by Andrew Marshall — October 16, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
Wichman for the next President.

Someone who will not be bullied or intimidated by the left wing and you whining, immigrating Rags who want ALL Americans to convert to your way of thinking.
You want Islam. Fine. I respect that. Go back to the Middle East.
If I want to practice Christianity, I have to do it here because unfortunately I can’t practice it in the Middle East where you whiners came from. I would probably be killed for it where you come from.

Comment by Bobby — October 21, 2007 @ 11:03 pm
Here are some early 20th Century guidelines…I think they still apply today.

Theodore Roosevelt’s ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Comment by Ydnar Trewe — December 6, 2007 @ 12:44 am
While I didn’t attend Michigan State, I am behind the professor 100%!! Way to go, Mr. Wichman!!

Comment by Jo Agrusa — December 10, 2007 @ 8:35 am
I can’t belive anyone would stick up for this racist sick individual. How could he attack a group of people when he comes from america, a nation that has been dropping bombs on people because they are brown, or they have oil, I Really dont know the reason but they have killed more people than all the suicide bombers combined. And by his stupid racist remarks, I’m assuming he is christain which is a religion that has caused more wars than anything. If this piece of garbage spewed his hate about blacks, he would loose his job faster than you could say Jesse Jackson.

Comment by Steve Smith — December 13, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Islam is a farce, it is not a religion it is a cult!! How can a religion allow the murder of inocent people, because in their minds they are not innocent, if you do not follow “their way of life”, you are not innocent, you are an infidel and it is the duty of every person of islamic faith to kill you, or they cannot get into their version of heaven. What this professor said is in no way racist, how can the truth be racist? Why don’t the so called moderate muslims speak out against the more radical ones, because they will be killed thats why!……again NOT a religion, it is a CULT!.

Comment by Ron — December 13, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
Is there such a thing as a moderate Islamist? If so, would they please stand up against the radical Islamists?

Comment by Tommy — December 14, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
What EXACTLY did the good professor say that is factually incorrect? He not only makes many good points, but he presents them with wit.

Comment by Michael Douglass — December 16, 2007 @ 10:22 pm
The professor and the students have their right to speak out. As far as who is better than the other we need to look at our actions past and present before we complain too much about the atrocities of others. I consider this country at war with the Al Qaeda for their attacks on our country. I consider President Bush and Vice President criminals for attacking Iraq with out provocation. What the Muslims are doing in the name of Allah is a sin. What our current administration is doing in the name of democracy is a crime. I guess you could say I don’t like anyone any more. Even voting for a change did not help.

Comment by lutherbrowning — December 20, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
Wow, imagine not being able to speak your mind. Is this the peoples republic of the land formerly known as the USA? If this man is disciplined it is a sad say for America.

Comment by THE TRUTH — December 24, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
I agree people have the RIGHT to speak their mind. However there are limitations. As a police officer if I use fowl language, tell the criminals what I feel ect. I can be suspended. For What? Freedom of speech. NO! for being out of order. Same as in a court room. The University should also have rules. Everything the Professor stated about what are Muslims are doing is wrong. They are not Muslims. I have been a Muslim my whole life and We as Muslims condem their actions. I have been a police officer for 15 years and if God Willing for 15 more. I have arrested People who claim to be Followers of Jesus who are thieves, Murderers, Rapist. People who have burned down churches, homes, that are drug dealers and all claim to be Christians. However I, we as Real practising Muslims do not condem Christains. Why Because we are smart enough to know the difference. I can take words out of a paragraph and put them into a snetence or statement and make not represent the truth. This is done alot. People who are scared of Muslims, do not know Muslims. Its time to educate yourselves and know the difference. Freedom of speech is Awsome. Sometimes discretion is better. The professor should have properly educated himslef and used restraint and discretion. May God Forfive all of us and guide us to the true way. Thank You and Peace

Comment by Ahmed — December 26, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
Oh, I did have another comment. I agree with “INDREK WICHMAN”???? We foreigners, ALL OF US should go back to our native countries and let the Native Americans have their land back. Indrek, What r u stupid. Here, let me educate you. Of all the billions of Muslims in the world only 13% come from the Middle East. The other 87% are from other countries. Muslims are individuals not countries. Other than Christianity, Islam is the 2nd largest religion in the world and USA, home of the Native Americans. In the USA we protect the KKK, Militia and other terrorist organizations with our constitution. However you have the Audacity to respond in a negative manner when educated Muslims speak about right and wrong. A Police officer saying is this. “We deal with 10% of the public 90% of the time” This goes for every religion, people, and person or just about anything. Think about it. I have Muslim friends and relatives fighting for this country in Iraq. They tell me there is more good than bad. However the media needs good ratings so they show the bad. Even the Christian Soldiers are complaining that the media are only showing bad. This means their existence in Iraq is meaningless. “INDREK WICHMAN” what kind of name is that. Sounds like your ancestors are from another country. I would like to meet you and talk with you educating you Islam and what it really means. It sounds to me PROFESSOR you have allot to learn. Of Course I come in Peace. Are you up for the challenge or shall I say to be educated. by the way, grammar was never my strong point. Please let me know. I will check back and any information given will be checked out for authenticity before I respond. Thank You and Peace

Comment by Ahmed — December 26, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
This comment is for all the Christians out there. If any person, Muslim or otherwise do not believe in the trinity, or Jesus is God or the son of God and have and will not be baptized are they going to heaven. I know your answer is no!!!!!!. Then you believe that we are not innocent. Islam is a Religion. The fastest growing one in the world. The 2nd largest in the USA and World. Do Not let a small group of extremists tell the story. You need to educate yourself and read and learn. A Good book is by Joseph Emerick “What Islam is all about”. This is a good starting point. I have sat in a conference with allot of people on religion. Several were educated. Some only spoke about what they saw on CNN or read about in the paper or her by the water cooler. I asked those people what was their source. They could not respond. I asked them if they would like to educate themselves and be able to speak on an intelligent level about this discussion. They humbly accepted. The next month another meeting was established at a Catholic church. Again several religions showed up together as friends to discuss today’s problems in our society and the rest of the world with their demented and ignorant ways of thinking about much as you people have discussed in this blog. I was surprised by the group and individuals who spoke intelligently about the subject after they read proper books and educated themselves. I strongly believe you individuals need to do the same. Remember, just because you are a professor or have degree’s does not make you smart on every subject. Indrek talks about how smart he is and the colleagues he associates with that also believe the way he does. A Question: What is fear. Usually a person fears on what he knows not. Several people fear Islam and Muslims because they do not know about Islam and Muslims. Educate yourselves the right way and fear no more. Thank You and Peace.

Comment by Ahmed — December 26, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
It’s amazing how the 1st admendment only applies to certain people, not all Americans! I do not think our forefathers would have put up with half the stuff that is happening in this country today. If someone would have burned an American flag back in the date our constitution was being written, belive me that person would have been tried for treason against the United States. I am tired of only certain groups having that freedom but someone like the Professor says how he feels and look out the ACLU and others are on the case. Yet if we talk about God in schools well then there is a backlash. Like I said funny how the 1st Admendment only applies to certain people. Bravo to the Professor who has every right to state his feelings under the 1st Admendment, if you don’t like it don’t read it!

Comment by stephanie — December 27, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
Bless you, Dr Indrek Wichman. This is America! We speak English, we are privileged to be able to speak our minds and worship as we please without fear. God bless us each and every one!

Comment by Linda — December 27, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
I agree people have the RIGHT to speak their mind. However there are limitations. As a police officer if I use fowl language, tell the criminals what I feel ect. I can be suspended. For What? Freedom of speech. NO! for being out of order. Same as in a court room. The University should also have rules. Everything the Professor stated about what are Muslims are doing is wrong. They are not Muslims. I have been a Muslim my whole life and We as Muslims condem their actions. I have been a police officer for 15 years and if God Willing for 15 more. I have arrested People who claim to be Followers of Jesus who are thieves, Murderers, Rapist. People who have burned down churches, homes, that are drug dealers and all claim to be Christians. However I, we as Real practising Muslims do not condem Christains. Why Because we are smart enough to know the difference. I can take words out of a paragraph and put them into a snetence or statement and make not represent the truth. This is done alot. People who are scared of Muslims, do not know Muslims. Its time to educate yourselves and know the difference. Freedom of speech is Awsome. Sometimes discretion is better. The professor should have properly educated himslef and used restraint and discretion. May God Forfive all of us and guide us to the true way. Thank You and Peace…This comment is for all the Christians out there. If any person, Muslim or otherwise do not believe in the trinity, or Jesus is God or the son of God and have and will not be baptized are they going to heaven. I know your answer is no!!!!!!. Then you believe that we are not innocent. Islam is a Religion. The fastest growing one in the world. The 2nd largest in the USA and World. Do Not let a small group of extremists tell the story. You need to educate yourself and read and learn. A Good book is by Joseph Emerick “What Islam is all about”. This is a good starting point. I have sat in a conference with allot of people on religion. Several were educated. Some only spoke about what they saw on CNN or read about in the paper or her by the water cooler. I asked those people what was their source. They could not respond. I asked them if they would like to educate themselves and be able to speak on an intelligent level about this discussion. They humbly accepted. The next month another meeting was established at a Catholic church. Again several religions showed up together as friends to discuss today’s problems in our society and the rest of the world with their demented and ignorant ways of thinking about much as you people have discussed in this blog. I was surprised by the group and individuals who spoke intelligently about the subject after they read proper books and educated themselves. I strongly believe you individuals need to do the same. Remember, just because you are a professor or have degree’s does not make you smart on every subject. Indrek talks about how smart he is and the colleagues he associates with that also believe the way he does. A Question: What is fear. Usually a person fears on what he knows not. Several people fear Islam and Muslims because they do not know about Islam and Muslims. Educate yourselves the right way and fear no more. Thank You and Peace. This comment is for all the Christians out there. If any person, Muslim or otherwise do not believe in the trinity, or Jesus is God or the son of God and have and will not be baptized are they going to heaven. I know your answer is no!!!!!!. Then you believe that we are not innocent. Islam is a Religion. The fastest growing one in the world. The 2nd largest in the USA and World. Do Not let a small group of extremists tell the story. You need to educate yourself and read and learn. A Good book is by Joseph Emerick “What Islam is all about”. This is a good starting point. I have sat in a conference with allot of people on religion. Several were educated. Some only spoke about what they saw on CNN or read about in the paper or her by the water cooler. I asked those people what was their source. They could not respond. I asked them if they would like to educate themselves and be able to speak on an intelligent level about this discussion. They humbly accepted. The next month another meeting was established at a Catholic church. Again several religions showed up together as friends to discuss today’s problems in our society and the rest of the world with their demented and ignorant ways of thinking about much as you people have discussed in this blog. I was surprised by the group and individuals who spoke intelligently about the subject after they read proper books and educated themselves. I strongly believe you individuals need to do the same. Remember, just because you are a professor or have degree’s does not make you smart on every subject. Indrek talks about how smart he is and the colleagues he associates with that also believe the way he does. A Question: What is fear. Usually a person fears on what he knows not. Several people fear Islam and Muslims because they do not know about Islam and Muslims. Educate yourselves the right way and fear no more. Thank You and Peace.

Comment by Ahmed — December 27, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
Like it or not, there were no Americans involved in the hijacking and crashing of those airplane. It was all foreigners of the Muslim faith. So, if the truth pinches the toes of you Muslims, that’s tough. And if you don’t like what we non-Muslims have to say, well if you need a map to get to the nearest airport just let me know. We made it just fine for a couple of hundred years before we started being inundated by you people and we will do fine when you leave, peacefully, or otherwise. And the sooner the better!

Comment by Bob Smith — December 29, 2007 @ 11:05 am
Truth scares CAIR - and so it should. Nothing Indrek Wichman said can in any way be contested. In fact, his criticism was very, very mild - all things considered.
The problem is that any criticism is an ofense to Islam. For this reason alone, many people don’t consider it an Abrahamic religion but a cult.
The War of Civilizations is already 1,300 years old. And it will continue as long as a group of individuals desrespects all others, including themselves, and have the absurd pretension of “dominating the world”, towards which they contributed with nothing except fairy tales - Ali Baba and all.

Comment by Jaysonrex — December 31, 2007 @ 10:19 am
For the last time of all you readers, do not read the words. Read the message. I am a Muslim. The professor made a comment that generalized all Muslims. For Bob Smith. Are you educated? As a Police officer I arrest People for the most brutal crimes who state they are Christians all the time. Should I generalize and say all Christians are evil and should leave this country and if you need I will draw you a map to the nearest airport. How Juvenile!! Remember the country used to belong to the Native Americans. The Christians have used Gods name in more wars than any religion. But that is not the message. I am upset that Indrek made a false comment about Muslims. He should have referred his comments to the Extremists who say they are Muslims but don not practice it. Then I would agree. Suicide bombers, people who kill for the sake of killing are not Muslims. Educate yourself. Read the Koran in full. Speak about the subject intelligently. Not what the media portrays. I am surprised also that there are so many ignorant people out there that speak unintelligently about subjects they do not know of. Oh by the way, take political science in college. You will be surprised about the people who ran and are running this country for all the deaths they authorized to save them from a scandal. By the way, they all called themselves Christians. Once you are educated you will not be scared anymore. It’s sad for all of you to live in fear every day. It must be miserable. People fear what they no not. Thank You and Peace. Happy New Year.

Comment by Ahmed — January 1, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
For the last time of all you readers, do not read the words. Read the message. I am a Muslim. The professor made a comment that generalized all Muslims. For Bob Smith. Are you educated? As a Police officer I arrest People for the most brutal crimes who state they are Christians all the time. Should I generalize and say all Christians are evil and should leave this country and if you need I will draw you a map to the nearest airport. How Juvenile!! Remember the country used to belong to the Native Americans. The Christians have used Gods name in more wars than any religion. But that is not the message. I am upset that Indrek made a false comment about Muslims. He should have referred his comments to the Extremists who say they are Muslims but don not practice it. Then I would agree. Suicide bombers, people who kill for the sake of killing are not Muslims. Educate yourself. Read the Koran in full. Speak about the subject intelligently. Not what the media portrays. I am surprised also that there are so many ignorant people out there that speak unintelligently about subjects they do not know of. Oh by the way, take political science in college. You will be surprised about the people who ran and are running this country for all the deaths they authorized to save them from a scandal. By the way, they all called themselves Christians. Once you are educated you will not be scared anymore. It’s sad for all of you to live in fear every day. It must be miserable. People fear what they no not. Thank You and Peace. Happy New Year.

Comment by Ahmed — January 1, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
I agree people have the RIGHT to speak their mind. However there are limitations. As a police officer if I use fowl language, tell the criminals what I feel ect. I can be suspended. For What? Freedom of speech. NO! for being out of order. Same as in a court room. The University should also have rules. Everything the Professor stated about what are Muslims are doing is wrong. They are not Muslims. I have been a Muslim my whole life and We as Muslims condem their actions. I have been a police officer for 15 years and if God Willing for 15 more. I have arrested People who claim to be Followers of Jesus who are thieves, Murderers, Rapist. People who have burned down churches, homes, that are drug dealers and all claim to be Christians. However I, we as Real practising Muslims do not condem Christains. Why Because we are smart enough to know the difference. I can take words out of a paragraph and put them into a snetence or statement and make not represent the truth. This is done alot. People who are scared of Muslims, do not know Muslims. Its time to educate yourselves and know the difference. Freedom of speech is Awsome. Sometimes discretion is better. The professor should have properly educated himslef and used restraint and discretion. May God Forfive all of us and guide us to the true way. Thank You and Peace…This comment is for all the Christians out there. If any person, Muslim or otherwise do not believe in the trinity, or Jesus is God or the son of God and have and will not be baptized are they going to heaven. I know your answer is no!!!!!!. Then you believe that we are not innocent. Islam is a Religion. The fastest growing one in the world. The 2nd largest in the USA and World. Do Not let a small group of extremists tell the story. You need to educate yourself and read and learn. A Good book is by Joseph Emerick “What Islam is all about”. This is a good starting point. I have sat in a conference with allot of people on religion. Several were educated. Some only spoke about what they saw on CNN or read about in the paper or her by the water cooler. I asked those people what was their source. They could not respond. I asked them if they would like to educate themselves and be able to speak on an intelligent level about this discussion. They humbly accepted. The next month another meeting was established at a Catholic church. Again several religions showed up together as friends to discuss today’s problems in our society and the rest of the world with their demented and ignorant ways of thinking about much as you people have discussed in this blog. I was surprised by the group and individuals who spoke intelligently about the subject after they read proper books and educated themselves. I strongly believe you individuals need to do the same. Remember, just because you are a professor or have degree’s does not make you smart on every subject. Indrek talks about how smart he is and the colleagues he associates with that also believe the way he does. A Question: What is fear. Usually a person fears on what he knows not. Several people fear Islam and Muslims because they do not know about Islam and Muslims. Educate yourselves the right way and fear no more. Thank You and Peace. This comment is for all the Christians out there. If any person, Muslim or otherwise do not believe in the trinity, or Jesus is God or the son of God and have and will not be baptized are they going to heaven. I know your answer is no!!!!!!. Then you believe that we are not innocent. Islam is a Religion. The fastest growing one in the world. The 2nd largest in the USA and World. Do Not let a small group of extremists tell the story. You need to educate yourself and read and learn. A Good book is by Joseph Emerick “What Islam is all about”. This is a good starting point. I have sat in a conference with allot of people on religion. Several were educated. Some only spoke about what they saw on CNN or read about in the paper or her by the water cooler. I asked those people what was their source. They could not respond. I asked them if they would like to educate themselves and be able to speak on an intelligent level about this discussion. They humbly accepted. The next month another meeting was established at a Catholic church. Again several religions showed up together as friends to discuss today’s problems in our society and the rest of the world with their demented and ignorant ways of thinking about much as you people have discussed in this blog. I was surprised by the group and individuals who spoke intelligently about the subject after they read proper books and educated themselves. I strongly believe you individuals need to do the same. Remember, just because you are a professor or have degree’s does not make you smart on every subject. Indrek talks about how smart he is and the colleagues he associates with that also believe the way he does. A Question: What is fear. Usually a person fears on what he knows not. Several people fear Islam and Muslims because they do not know about Islam and Muslims. Educate yourselves the right way and fear no more. Thank You and Peace

Comment by Ahmed — January 1, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Mr. Ahmed - I applaud you for writing and stepping up and saying that “We as Muslims condemn their actions”. That is very courageous of you. I also applaud and thank you for being a law enforcement officer in our great country. I know Islam to be a peaceful religion and can appreciate the dedication that many of their followers have.
You say that you have arrested many Christians that “claim to be Followers of Jesus who are thieves, Murderers, Rapist. People who have burned down churches, homes, that are drug dealers and all claim to be Christians”. I thank you for standing up and saying that as a “Real practicing Muslim you do not condemn Christians” for these actions.
I do however must point out that just like in your religion there are radical sects in America that claim to be Christian. The main difference is when one of these commits one of pathetic acts - you don’t see Christians coming out into the streets or TV and supporting this kind of behavior. I do very much remember after Sept. 11 many Muslims (and they probably were radical) going out into the streets and celebrating - all this in our country (michigan, new york). What do you call that?
Yes, I’m aware that it’s a small sect of your religion - but it does exist in this country and in the world in alarming numbers. It bothered me to see these so called Muslims on the streets - Did it bother you sir? Did it embarrass you? I did not hear or see many ‘peaceful Muslims’ standing up and condemning their actions. Why did no mosques come out and condemn it? Why did few Muslims come out and say this has got to stop?
I really wonder - what is your response to this - the prophet Mohammed is quoted as saying, “The sword is the key of heaven and hell; a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting or prayer: whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim.” Is it me or does it seem like many people from your religion do not come out and speak against this radical sect in your religion. Why? What are you afraid of? Or does the last quote really mean something to your religion. Yes - I’m aware of the Christian Crusades in the 11th century and how bad they were. But that’s in the past and today’s society knows better now and yes it was totally wrong. Obviously the Catholic Church was wrong during this period and therefore the splits in the church have come.
I feel the professor just had enough and had to speak - not just speak but shout it out! He did not speak representing any religion (he’s probably an atheist). Guess what it worked - it’s gotten you and other true followers of Islam to stand up and defy these actions. Although some (they are probably radical) have made it their mission to get him fired. If not for his words - would you have said anything.
I do have concern with some people who represent Islam/Muslim. The President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pontificated: “The world will be in the hands of Islam over the next few years.” he also said “There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind,” These kind of quotes call for some concern when it comes from world leaders.
Finally – I will tell you that I am a Christian. I am a follower of Jesus and my religion is Catholic. I finally saw the light which is Jesus and have felt and know the grace that God gives us. I have no desires to forcefully make you hear the Gospels of Christ. I can only introduce you and from there it’s your choice.
I have no problems with Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Animism, Hinduism, Scientologist, Atheism, Baha’i, Candomblé, Jainism, Mormon, Paganism, Rastafari, Santeria, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, Unitarianism, Zoroastrianism. I love you all.
We should all be free to practice our own beliefs and live in peace. Bottom line is when there is an injustice performed – we should all rise and condemn it as Americans.
God Bless You.

ED

Comment by Ed — January 4, 2008 @ 9:46 am
Thank You Ed, Finally someone who spoke intelligently about this controversial topic. Thank You for your kind words and you are welcome. I cannot see myself doing anything but Law enforcement and helping people. My Muslim wife is a critical care nurse. She feels the same. I would like to answer your questions. First I go to a Mosque that teaches Islam in its full content. The Imam (Preacher) is an educated man, not only graduating from American University but in Islam. The quote that You talked about by Prophet Mohammed is a quote always taken out of content. The history on that was in a time where Muslims were being killed for the sake of believing in Islam. The Prophet spoke to his people to stand up for themselves. History on Islam is very fascinating as you can imagine as any religion. Ed, as long as you do not oppress me or try to force me to believe in any other religion or fight me because I believe in Islam YOU ARE MY BROTHER. Let me give you a quote from Prophet Mohammed: If you kill one man it is if you have killed all of mankind. If you save one man it is if you have save al of mankind. This is because killing for the sake of killing is the greatest sin. As of 911, and what is happening now in the Middle East. Another quote: Allah giving a revelation: You have been entrusted with the Quran and the message. If you transgress I will destroy you and replace you with someone who is more spiritual. Ok, that was a paraphrase. I was too lazy to look it up. But let’s look at the big picture. Arabs, as myself were given the Prophet Mohammed as other tribes were given a prophet from their own tribe. However if you watch the news, Arabs are transgressing. Think about this. out of the billions of Muslims in the world only 13% are Arabs. The rest are people from all over the world. My disgust was not what Indrek stated, because it is true among the extremist. However he made a generalization on all Muslims. That also meant me. There are 8 million Muslims in the USA. The media showed about 2 to 3 dozen dancing in the streets after 911. I was pissed. I said that the police should round them all up and send them back to their country where they would be happier. I AM AN AMERICAN!!!! Do Not mess with the USA. If you do, you mess with me. I take that seriously. That’s why I am a Police Officer. My family fought in every war since WW1 as an American and now in this war. After 911 Muslims around the world condemned the acts of the terrorist. But that is not worthy News. Only the bad were shown in most occasions. My wife and I actually had a TV crew follow us around during our day. One had driven with me while on Duty. They came to my home and an interview was conducted. Several times the media came to our Mosque and we obliged them with interviews. I was even on the Tony Snow show “Sirius Satellite” and asked to go on the O’Riely factor in which I declined. I understand your frustration. However remember there are always two sides to every story. And as we say in the Police. I world, then there is the truth. I was truly embarrassed as a Muslim about those thugs. If you remember correctly after 911 People who resembled “Muslims, Arabs Ect. were shot and killed by Americans. Their homes destroyed. They personally attacked and even my mosque had their windows broken out. That is why President Bush got on National TV and told the Americans to stop their aggressive behavior. He also explained as I did that the people of 911 our extremists and that Islam is indeed a peaceful religion. All this because people were standing in the streets and causing chaos. It’s Human Nature. Not all people are leaders and need to be guided. It was a sad day for all Americans. I too mourned. I have friends on the NYPD that I could not reach in 3 weeks after 911. I was Terrified. For the record they are Christians. Finally they called to tell me they were ok but were obviously busy and could not get back to me. Here’s a real Kicker. My best friend’s parents lived in Long Island at the time. They since have moved to Florida. They are Jewish. My other close friends are Christians who attend Church every Sunday. I also have Muslim friends and we all hang out together. This is the majority of Muslims. The Media only show the juicy stuff for ratings. So to directly answer your questions, I stood up after 911. I wanted the #%&$ holes dancing in the streets to be immediately arrested for suspicion in a crisis of a National emergency and then shipped to their country of choice but not the USA. ED, your letter impressed me. After reading others I thought everyone was ignorant on this subject. I only wanted Indrek to differentiate between Extremist and Practicing Muslims. Thank You and Peace. Happy New Year

Comment by Ahmed — January 6, 2008 @ 8:57 pm
Ahmed,

Thanks for your great e-mail. I enjoyed it and so much and you answered my concerns. It’s very nice knowing your true feelings on all this mess. I pray that others will read this and speak out. Also on the other side that non-muslims can read it as well and understand the sacrifices you’ve made and hopefully understand Islam better – and know that you are a peaceful people. It’s all about living with peace and love.
I agree – the professor could and should have been more clear on his targets on his letter. It seemed geared at all Muslims and that’s not good. I’m sorry that your mosques and other mosques got harassed during 911. That shows the ignorance we live in.
You story is incredible and one I will share with others. I’m glad you did not go on O’Reiley because sometimes he gets carried away and does not allow people to speak. He imposes his point of view too much.
I also have friends that are Muslims, Jews and many more religions and non-religious. I love them and all and happy to call them my brothers/sisters and you my Brother.
We are all Americans – USA – this land was built on so many sacrifices. You and I sacrifice so much for the freedoms we have and cannot allow no human to take it away.
I wish you all the best my brother and will keep you and your family in my prayers.
ED

Comment by Ed — January 10, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Ed and Ahmed, get a room. Professor Wichman, ROCK ON!!

Comment by Dane — January 14, 2008 @ 11:32 pm
Wow Dane, thats impressive

Comment by Ahmed — January 16, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
Oh get real. Muslims have been murdering Christians by the millions in the Middle East and North Africa for centuries, as they slowly but surely spread their diseased misogynistic hatred throughout the world by empowering poor little men to behave in cowardly ways in the oppression of women and children.

Don’t think you are men because you can murder babies. Look to Afghanistan and Iraq to see what happens when you have to fight real men.

You lose.

Get out.

Comment by Bailey Hankins — January 19, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
Bailey, then they are not Muslims. They are wrong doers. Read my next entry.

Comment by Ahmed — January 26, 2008 @ 10:41 am
For the last time of all you readers, do not read the words. Read the message. I am a Muslim. The professor made a comment that generalized all Muslims. For Bob Smith. Are you educated? As a Police officer I arrest People for the most brutal crimes who state they are Christians all the time. Should I generalize and say all Christians are evil and should leave this country and if you need I will draw you a map to the nearest airport. How Juvenile!! Remember the country used to belong to the Native Americans. The Christians have used Gods name in more wars than any religion. But that is not the message. I am upset that Indrek made a false comment about Muslims. He should have referred his comments to the Extremists who say they are Muslims but don not practice it. Then I would agree. Suicide bombers, people who kill for the sake of killing are not Muslims. Educate yourself. Read the Koran in full. Speak about the subject intelligently. Not what the media portrays. I am surprised also that there are so many ignorant people out there that speak unintelligently about subjects they do not know of. Oh by the way, take political science in college. You will be surprised about the people who ran and are running this country for all the deaths they authorized to save them from a scandal. By the way, they all called themselves Christians. Once you are educated you will not be scared anymore. It’s sad for all of you to live in fear every day. It must be miserable. People fear what they no not. Thank You and Peace. Happy New Year.

Comment by Ahmed — January 26, 2008 @ 10:43 am
Well said Ahmed!

Comment by Ed — January 29, 2008 @ 9:17 am
Ahmed,
You said “After 911 Muslims around the world condemned the acts of the terrorist. But that is not worthy News”. I would respectfully disagree. Granted, the news showed the ignorant ones celebrating but the sounds of the “condemnation” you said occurred must have been like the roar of butterfly wings. It would be worthy news. I would be delighted to be educated to the great roar of condemnation that went up. I recall a few but most put their heads in the sand, for whatever reason. I think that is what irritates most of us so much. The cartoon drew such outrage but beheadings and the 9-11 attack seem to be life as usual to most. Your silent majority needs to be a little less silent.

Comment by Bill — February 17, 2008 @ 6:52 pm
Below is an email that I sent to the Professor
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Dear Professor,
I just read, via a forward, your response to the protest. And I agree with all of the incidents mentioned by you as being reprehensible. I hope that there are no further consequences from that email as I agree you have the absolute right to free speech with this.
I also read it as something fired off quickly without a lot of forethought. I have done that more than once myself in my time and recognize it when I see it.
I have, however, one little bit of caution. I find the line which states “I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems” to be much too broad off a brush and I believe that it is using a broad brush like that and overly condemning of large groups of people for the idiocies of a few that have helped end effective political discussion in this country today and stifled it in many other countries before it could get going.
Just a few thoughts from a Liberal.
I am,
Respectfully Yours,
Kevin G. Farrell

Comment by Kevin G. Farrell — February 27, 2008 @ 12:10 am
In the US (and the rest of the free world) cartoonists make fun of our religious leaders, from jesus to the pope to wacky right wing religious zealots of all kinds from mormons to baptists to buddhists to… What’s the big deal? It’s called “having a sense of humor”. I hope you can loosen up and laugh at cartoons whether it’s bugs bunny or jesus or whomever and I feel pretty sorry for you if you don’t. So are you offended by the other cartoons or only the ones specific to your belief system? And it’s my understanding from living in the middle east for quite a while that islam recognizes jesus is a prophet. So does that make jesus jokes offensive? How about nun and priest jokes? The real issue here is that people who are uneasy with freedom feel better if the free people are told what to think, how to dress, what to say and not say, and when. But the problem that creates is that there then become “right” answers and “wrong” answers. If we truly have compassion we begin to see that there really are no right and wrong answers, it’s me who has to decide what makes for a life of integrity, and I can only decide for myself. My parents raised me that two wrongs don’t make a right. I just can’t come up with a scenario that lends itself to beheading? Protesting cartoons for crying out loud. Grow up, get a grip, quit playing the victim and go build some water systems for folks in Africa or eradicate diptheria or do something that makes a difference. Quit wasting your energy. It’s like people moving from California to other states and then whining about “well in California…”. You’re not in California are you. And no one cares about how fast you could drive on the freeway or your cool Hollywood friends. So the analogy I’m trying to make here is that no one cares about what you believe, and as a matter of fact if you quit bringing it up no one would even know what you believe. Why is it important for others to know what you believe? And why is it so scary if others don’t believe exactly the same way you do?

Comment by karen — March 21, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
Thank you Professor for stating the obvious. Are we Westerners becoming so brain dead with PC and a surfeit of media milk sop pansy wansy liberal indoctrination that we do not cry out against continuing, escalating radical Islamic crimes around the world?

The real worry is that peaceful Muslims can not or will not will not speak out against Allah’s Jihadist Warriors.

Ian from Downunder.

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Minority Muslims: Oz “Get Along, Or Get Out!” Quotes by John Howard - Australian Prime Minister. Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques. Quote: ‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.’ ‘This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom’ ‘We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society. Learn the language!’ ‘Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.’ ‘We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.’ [’Islam’ doesn’t allow that!] ‘This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you to take every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, ‘THE RIGHT TO LEAVE’.’ ‘If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here.You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.’

Comment by Jegajothy — March 26, 2009 @ 9:21 am
Hey Ahmed, go suck a wet one. We KNOW what Islam is. Its the genocide of all jews and kuffars hiding behind a religion. Its a political ideology hiding behind a religion. Its misogynism and intolerance. Its jihad. Its beheading. Its FGM. Its the reason for all the havoc in the world. Quote: “smite their necks.” Yah. we get it Ahmed. Evidently YOU don’t get it. Maybe try reading your Quran, suras and hadiths. Thats a start for YOU.

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Comment by Mike — April 15, 2009 @ 11:15 am
As a history major that is surrounded in Minnesota by Muslims all alike, whether they’re from Samalia, Kuwait, or born in Minnesota, the Muslims for the most part contribute nothing but a growing crime rate. The Muslim religion is rooted in aggression and the extermination of any person that doesn’t believe in its one true God. So why do Muslim religions complain about the West, but continue to leave the Middle-East? If is a Muslim is feels so strongly about its religion, why can’t they see that christian America is FOUNDED ON CHRISTIANITY. Why should Americans have to put up with people working in Grocery stores that don’t want to touch pork because of their religion, or that we can’t call Christmas, Christmas and Easter, Easter? Why should we have to pay for welfare for a religion of people that will not assimilate to American culture and will not for many years to come? In the end it comes down to a group of people who will never have a refermation on all the things that are wrong with their religion, and until they can America is not a good choice for them to live in.

Comment by Daniel — April 22, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
Your statements echo what many, many Americans think. It is too bad that the people we elect to speak for us in our own country and around the world are more interested in being liked than standing up for their own country.

Comment by Juan Castro — April 24, 2009 @ 8:34 am
Just want to say that that John Lennon was so right with his song “Imagine”

As religion is and has always beem a source of war , scrap them up .
All we need is love …

Peace to all of us !

Comment by Jean Paul — June 15, 2009 @ 9:53 pm

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