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John Conyers’ Religious Tolerance Resolution
If you haven’t seen it yet, check out the text of John Conyers’ religious tolerance resolution.
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives condemning bigotry and religious intolerance, and recognizing that holy books of every religion should be treated with dignity and respect.
Whereas believers of all religions, including the Abrahamic faiths of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, should be treated with respect and dignity;
Whereas the word Islam comes from the Arabic root word meaning “peace” and “submission”;
Whereas there are an estimated 7,000,000 Muslims in America, from a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds, forming an integral part of the social fabric of America;
Whereas the Quran is the holy book for Muslims who recite passages from it in prayer and learn valuable lessons about peace, humanity and spirituality;
Whereas it should never be official policy of the United States Government to disparage the Quran, Islam, or any religion in any way, shape, or form;Whereas mistreatment of prisoners and disrespect toward the holy book of any religion is unacceptable and against civilized humanity;
Whereas the infringement of an individual’s right to freedom of religion violates the Constitution and laws of the United States: Now, therefore, be it
1 Resolved, That the House of Representatives–
(1) condemns bigotry, acts of violence, and intolerance against any religious group, including our friends, neighbors, and citizens of the Islamic faith;
(2) declares that the civil rights and civil liberties of all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith, should be protected;
(3) recognizes that the Quran, the holy book of Islam, as any other holy book of any religion, should be treated with dignity and respect; and
(4) calls upon local, State, and Federal authorities to work to prevent bias-motivated crimes and acts against all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith.
This is just nutty. Here’s why on a point by point basis.
(1) condemns bigotry, acts of violence, and intolerance against any religious group, including our friends, neighbors, and citizens of the Islamic faith;
A bigot is: “A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own.”
On who is intolerant is “unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion”
So here we have the first point seemingly running directly counter to the first ammendment. I’m not saying bigotry and intolerance are good things necessarily, but at the intellectually and verbal level they are protected by the first ammendment. This first point does not even say acts of bigotry or intolerance. The only action it condemns is that of violence, and what is the point of a resolution that condemns violence? (I am not even going to try to deconstruct the irony of a resolution supporting the Koran and condemning violence - it’s been done in many other places prior).
Second point.
(2) declares that the civil rights and civil liberties of all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith, should be protected;
Isn’t this what we already have a Bill of Rights for? Seems like a waste of ink and a silly PR play.
And here’s one that’s causing the big uproar over at LGF (tip: Basil), some of the responses are rational, some not.
(3) recognizes that the Quran, the holy book of Islam, as any other holy book of any religion, should be treated with dignity and respect; and
First, what does “treated” mean? Is that a physical act? Or is portraying something artistically a treatment of it? Or speaking about it? If the bully shouts mean things to my kid on the playground, is he treating him with dignity and respect? I think not. What about if he draws a picture of his teacher with a voice bubble saying something obnoxious, is that treating the teacher with respect? I think not.
So it seems to me this is a very clear attempt at limiting the first ammendment and preventing speech that would be disrespectful of the Koran.
And what business does the government have making resolutions on manners in the first place? But more importantly, consider all of the potential ways in which this could be violated.
Obvious:
- Koran flushed at Gitmo
Maybe not so obvious:
- Korans destroyed in the bombing of a weapons cache in a mosque.
- Terrorist holding a Koran gets shot as he’s committing an act of violence.
Really scary:
- Discussions parsing the theology of the Koran which argue that it advocates violence and argue that it is not a true holy book or not the book of a true ROP.
And, “as any other holy book.” Nice bone he threw to those who were not singled out. What about sacred figures, symbols or beliefs? Would the outrage be there if a picture of the the Koran was shown immersed in a jar of urine?
Does this painting violate the Conyers resolution?
Or how about this? (Elephant dung smeared on virgin Mary).
Or would sites like these be prevented from existing?
And I wonder if Conyers has seen this article, which would encourage him to include the Bible in the list.
Hopefully the point has been made and I don’t need to elaborate further. Let’s look at the final bullet point.
(4) calls upon local, State, and Federal authorities to work to prevent bias-motivated crimes and acts against all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith.
Leaving aside the fact that hate-crime legislation in itself is nuts, the wording on this one is even worse. What is the definition of “bias?” Essentially, it is a point of view. A personal perspective. So one could easily argue that any crime or act is one made from bias. If I rob a convenience store, there is bias. I chose that one over another one for a reason. If I speak unkindly to my neighbor, there is bias. And while he doesn’t say “especially those of the Islamic faith,” that is really the transparent purpose of this resolution.
Oh, and what about shooting someone who is wearing a suicide bomb vest and walking toward you? That is definitely a biased action - the perspective of the shooter is strongly in play here. What if the shootee was Islamic? Would that violate Conyers’ resolution?
In summary, I realize Conyers is trying to show the world we are a nation who welcomes people of all faiths, and he’s trying to counter the unsubstantiated Newsweek claims. I’m sure his motives are good, but the results are silly. And scary to those who would preserve free speech.
As a side thought, I wonder if Conyers will push for changes at the National Endowment for the Arts, if that organization funds art that is intolerant or bigoted.
Others are also commenting.
The autonomist thinks he’s shilling for CAIR.
Dangerous Dan agrees with me.
Condemning prejudice is fine and endorsing tolerance is fine, but I certainly don’t want the government doing either. Reason being that the government, of all social entities, has the power of forced coercion. There’s a fine line between merely condemning or endorsing and making laws that enforce either or both. What was once condemned becomes banned and what was once endorsed becomes legally obligatory. Doing so comes at the expense of First Amendment liberties. Flushing a Koran down a toilet is abhorrent and should be condemned, but I … have a right to put so many holy books down the john that the plumber who gets called out will be a Religion scholar by the time he’s done unclogging the toilet.
Pirate’s Cove has some thoughts.
http://myopiczeal.blogsome.com/2005/05/26/john-conyers-religious-tolerance-resolution/trackback/
Yup… “submission”. I think that sums it up.
Comment by Taste of Liberty — May 27, 2005 @ 7:14 am
How many are aware of this fact?…
There is NOT ONE SINGLE Scripture in the New Testament where Humans are aloud to hurt each other. Quite the contrary.
The challenge for Islam to have the same respect - and freedom that the New Testament has - is to show that the Lord of the New Testament agrees with violence between humans. It can not be done.
The Koran on the other hand - is filled with violent commands for humans carry out upon each other.
Not just in Muslim lands - mind you:
004.101 When ye travel ‘”’through the earth”'’ there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For ‘”’the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies. ‘”’
004.100 He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah, finds ‘”'’in the earth Many a refuge, wide and spacious. ‘”’
So, there we can all see - that the ‘allah’ of the Koran commands his followers to keep his commands - through out the whole earth - and NOT just Muslim lands.
Here are some of his commands for ALL Muslims:
009.004 But the treaties are not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term.
009.005 But when the forbidden months are past [when the ‘treaties’ expire} then fight and slay the Pagans ‘”’wherever”'’ ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.
008.067 It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war [slay them first] until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. {TREASON in America
Isn’t John Conyers concerned about that? TREASON in America? Buy the way - that command is INCITEMENT to carry out Mass Murder while violating “Freedom of religion’
008.039 And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere. [Throughout the earth} 004.101 ]
033.061 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy. [Not because they did anything wrong - BUT because they’re not Muslims]
004.104 And slacken not in following up the enemy: If ye are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships. {There goes the ‘only in self defense’ theory
004.095 Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit at home. But those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit at home by a special reward.
002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?
009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.
So you see - The allah of the Koran doesn’t teach ‘ONLY IN SELFE DEFENSE ahould Muslims kill non-Muslims’
009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya [Islamic ‘tax’ - because they are ’second class’ citizens] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. {Violent discrimination? Theft?
009.030 The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what ‘'’ the unbelievers ‘'’ of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
037.151 Is it not that they say, from their own invention,
037.152 Allah has begotten children? but they are liars!
019.089 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight [jihad], smite at their necks. [Behead them!]
033.052 It is not lawful for thee to marry more women after this, nor to change them for other wives, even though their beauty attract thee, ‘”’except any thy right hand should possess as handmaidens”'’ {Those they capture
They are permitted to trade back and forth the ones they took as prisoners of war [after killing their men] as though they are merchandise - just so they can have ‘’their way'’ with them. ['’justifiable'’ mass rape of their female captives]
There are more commands like those ones in the Koran.
But - how many does America need? to prove the Koran thoroughly VIOLATES American laws? They also violate international laws.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the vicious violence the Koran teaches.
Why aren’t the voices of this world confronting it?
Don’t they care about the future of their children?
Why the silence?
They may hate the New Testament [Christianity] but they can never accuse it of inciting violence between humans - nor of violent discrimination.
I would like for John Conyers to give a valid answer to why he would fully support such wickedness.
Comment by Beth — June 19, 2005 @ 10:10 am
Why should John Conyers expect everyone be tolerant of a book that is NOT tolerant of us? And puts our lives in grave danger - just because we are not Muslims.
Comment by Beth — June 19, 2005 @ 10:12 am
Your statements speak for your hidden agenda. Where is your white hood?
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