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March 8, 2005

“Sgrena lied”

Posted by EW at 6:39 pm. Filed under: General

Captain Ed says “Sgrena lied.”

Sgrena's car

Michelle wonders too.


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    Comment by Mike on Hilton Head — March 8, 2005 @ 7:06 pm

  2. Images of Sgrena’s Car

    Italian television station Tg1 is running images of a car purported to be the one used by Giuliana Sgrena. If this is the car then it would contradict earlier reports that Sgrena’s rescuers had used a truck. If accurate, the…

    Trackback by The Jawa Report — March 8, 2005 @ 8:34 pm

  3. Sgrena update

    While italian journalist and escaped hostage Giuliana Sgrena described what was inflicted on her and her rescuers by US troops as a “rain of fire and bullets”, and italian officials have reported that 300 to 400 bullets were fired in…

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  4. I’m not watching with much interest at this point. You rarely know the whole story until a long time later. Her whole ‘assassination attempt’ bit seems outrageous, and places a significant burden of proof on her.

    To debunk this stuff, you have to ask some basic questions:

    1. Is this the car, for sure?
    2. Can a panicked person perceive dozens of rounds as hundreds?
    3. I see no photos of the passenger front, passenger side and rear of the car. Are we seeing all the damage from gunfire?

    I don’t have any reason to jum to conclusions. None of us do. Debunk away as the news comes in. Try to make some news, even ;) . But just keep in mind that bias isn’t evidence.

    I wonder if our Italian lady realizes that tragedy isn’t a crime?

    See? Now I’m starting to speculate.

    Comment by Mark — March 9, 2005 @ 1:45 am

  5. Seeing is Believing

    Below are the AP pictures of Giuliana Sgrena’s car, the very same car that she claims was shot at “300 or 400 times.” Jeepers! Three or four hundred shots by the elite and expert 3rd Infantry Division, and you have…

    Trackback by Something... and Half of Something — March 9, 2005 @ 8:32 am

  6. Laurence Simon offers a proposed additional question for the driver’s licensing exam in Italy:

    You are approaching a checkpoint where there are armed troops waving flashlights and firing warning shots over your vehicle. You:

    a) Stop
    b) Speed up
    c) Immediately make a U-turn and head for the nearest cafe for expresso and gelato
    d) Crap your pants

    to which I add:

    e) Scream and waive like an Arab terrorist to further get the Americans’ attention
    f) Proceed upwind from checkpoint, throw up hands to surrender and wait for U.S. troops to pass out
    g) Surrender to anyone on road prior to hitting checkpoint, explaining that Italy has a fine tradition of surrendering in modern times commencing with Ethiopia in 1896
    h) Play “My Way” by Frank Sinatra on car horn as you approach
    i) Put on sunglasses to cut down the glare from the flashlights

    …..you are free to add to the list

    Comment by bsp — March 9, 2005 @ 8:52 am

  7. Seeing is Believing

    Below are the AP pictures of Giuliana Sgrena’s car, the very same car that she claims was shot at “300 or 400 times.” Jeepers! Three or four hundred shots by the elite and expert 3rd Infantry Division, and you have…

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